Elon Musk vs Pope Leo

[FlyersFan]

This is a good one.

Pope Leo vs Elon Musk.   Pope Leo started it.   With Elon Musk set to become the first trillionaire, Pope Leo called him out as "a symbol of extreme wealth in a world grappling with social polarization."   Elon Musk responded with the bible verse ‘Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye?’.

Pope Leo is right in that money shouldn't be the end all game in life.  But he's wrong in looking down on people who are able to make money ... people should be able to make as much as they can and they shouldn't feel bad about having the ability to do so.  Simply being rich isn't a sin (yes, according to the bible it's easier to get to heaven if  you aren't rich, but it's not a sin.).   Elon Musk was totally correct in telling the Pope to take at himself and his own church before pointing fingers.   The Catholic church is up to nefarious things with the New World Order population replacement etc etc ....

Side note reminder .... the Vatican is bankrupt and the Vatican Bank has it's claws out all around the world in shady business dealings ... 

So ... are you team Musk or team Pope ... or somewhere in between.

I don't like this pope.   I know Americans are smitten with the idea of an American pope but he isn't much different from Pope Francis, and he was a New World Order, no borders, anti-capitalist, anti-free-market, anti-American, LGBTQ pushing, woke Marxist.   So while I agree that getting rich shouldn't be the end all goal in life, simply being rich because you were able to make it happen without hurting anyone shouldn't be frowned upon.   I'm thinking I'm 80/20 on team Musk with this one.    The Catholic church should stay out of politics and stay out of the financial business of the world.  It should stick to saving souls and theology.

Economic Times - India Times

Pope Leo XIV, the first American-born pontiff, stirred controversy when he addressed Elon Musk’s potential rise as the world’s first trillionaire. Speaking in an interview with The Crux, the Pope highlighted growing income inequality, noting, “Yesterday the news that Elon Musk is going to be the first trillionaire in the world. What does that mean, and what’s that about? If that is the only thing that has value anymore, then we’re in big trouble.”


The Pope’s remarks underscored concerns over executive pay versus worker salaries, which he said now averages 600 times more than employees’ earnings—up from four to six times six decades ago. He framed Musk as a symbol of extreme wealth in a world grappling with social polarization.


Musk, no stranger to online debates, replied to the pontiff on X by quoting Matthew 7:3-5: “‘Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye?’” The message sparked divided reactions, with some praising Musk for highlighting the Vatican’s estimated $2 trillion wealth and global landholdings, while others reminded critics of the Church’s humanitarian work through hospitals, schools, and refugee programs.v

[quintessentone]

In actuality, it is not pope vs. musk, it is bringing to light the wide gap in CEO and worker's salaries. In other words, it's about greed.
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"Leo, speaking during his first sit-down media interview, cited income inequality as one of the factors behind polarization in society.
 “CEOs that 60 years ago might have been making four to six times more than what the workers are receiving … it’s (now) 600 times more than the average workers are receiving,” the first American pope said."

Pope Leo XIV criticizes CEO salaries in interview

"Earlier this year, defenders of President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful” tax and spending bill trotted out the same old promises. But this latest “reform” will only supercharge American inequality. The legislation slashes vital programs for low-income families to help bankroll still more tax breaks for large corporations and America’s most affluent. The average CEO of an S&P 500 company, a new AFL-CIO report estimates, will pocket $489,118 in personal annual tax savings from the new Trump legislation, a tax cut 639 times the savings the median U.S. worker can expect to receive. This extreme imbalance will only fan the flames of public anger over excessive CEO pay. Over recent years, poll after poll after poll has shown widespread outrage over CEO-worker pay disparities. Some 80 percent of U.S. workers, one April 2025 survey found, see America’s corporate CEOs as overpaid, and nearly 70 percent of workers do not believe their own company’s CEO could do the job they do for even one week."

executive_excess_report_2025.pdf

[FlyersFan]

In actuality, it is not pope vs. musk,

yeah ... it is.   Pope Leo wants it to be about greed.   But in reality, there is nothing wrong with someone making as much as they can, as long as they don't hurt anyone.  The Catholic church is bankrupt, and the Vatican bank is corrupt and has it's claws out all around the world.   The church is seeped in New World Order and doesn't like that Musk isn't beholding to them or anyone else.   

Musk was right to post what he did.

[CriticalStinker]

This is a good one.

Pope Leo vs Elon Musk.   Pope Leo started it.   With Elon Musk set to become the first trillionaire, Pope Leo called him out as "a symbol of extreme wealth in a world grappling with social polarization."   Elon Musk responded with the bible verse ‘Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye?’.

Pope Leo is right in that money shouldn't be the end all game in life.  But he's wrong in looking down on people who are able to make money ... people should be able to make as much as they can and they shouldn't feel bad about having the ability to do so.  Simply being rich isn't a sin (yes, according to the bible it's easier to get to heaven if  you aren't rich, but it's not a sin.).   Elon Musk was totally correct in telling the Pope to take at himself and his own church before pointing fingers.   The Catholic church is up to nefarious things with the New World Order population replacement etc etc ....

Side note reminder .... the Vatican is bankrupt and the Vatican Bank has it's claws out all around the world in shady business dealings ... 

So ... are you team Musk or team Pope ... or somewhere in between.

I don't like this pope.   I know Americans are smitten with the idea of an American pope but he isn't much different from Pope Francis, and he was a New World Order, no borders, anti-capitalist, anti-free-market, anti-American, LGBTQ pushing, woke Marxist.   So while I agree that getting rich shouldn't be the end all goal in life, simply being rich because you were able to make it happen without hurting anyone shouldn't be frowned upon.   I'm thinking I'm 80/20 on team Musk with this one.    The Catholic church should stay out of politics and stay out of the financial business of the world.  It should stick to saving souls and theology.

Economic Times - India Times

Seems like a pretty tame exchange between the two.

I think they’re both wrong though.

Matthew 19:24 (KJV) reads: "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God"

that applies to them both IMO. Elon shouldn’t have popped out the verses, and the Vatican doesn’t really have a leg to stand on when it comes to criticizing money or power IMO.

[FlyersFan]

Seems like a pretty tame exchange between the two.

It's going to be.   
The pope has to appear 'gentle as Jesus'.
The pope is right that money shouldn't be the end all.
But he's also wrong in that someone should be able to make as much as they can if they want to as long as they don't hurt anyone.   
And considering how bankrupt and corrupt the Catholic church is ... Musks post back was excellent.

[Anna]

...Pope Leo wants it to be about greed.   But in reality, there is nothing wrong with someone making as much as they can, as long as they don't hurt anyone...

Not really. The rich fool who wanted to build bigger barns didn't hurt anyone. Another rich guy who went straight to hell did nothing wrong except for failing to notice Lazarus suffering at his doorstep. Jesus clearly stated to his disciples to store up treasures in heaven, not on earth and demanded from a guy who wanted to follow him to sell all of his possessions and give money away to the poor.

And if that didn't convince you, there's "Woe to you who are rich" sermon on the mount. And yeah God is said to be merciful and so on but let's not forget how he treated the merchants in the temple. No guarantee God doesn't lose his temper at the time of final judgement.

People love to pick and choose whatever they want from the Bible but the views of Jesus were radical enough to get him killed by his own countrymen. If he had been such a gentle and a non-threatening hippie as some portray him to be, he wouldn't have been crucified. So if the Bible says the truth, then sorry but your Musk will be going to hell when he dies, considering he cares only about himself and treated his employees like crap. Of course, he won't be alone. Quite a few Catholic Church dignitaries will keep him company if this is enough of consolation for you.

[FlyersFan]

sorry but your Musk will be going to hell 

1 - He's not 'my Musk'.   He's just Elon Musk.   And I agree with his remark back to the Pope.   The Catholic church is corrupt and broke, and the Vatican bank is dripping in evil.   So Musks use of the biblical telling the Pope to take the log out of his own eye is dead on accurate.

2 - Only God can judge the soul.   I wouldn't step in and try to take His place.

[Vermilion]

I’d love to hear his take on King Solomon.

[FlyersFan]

I’d love to hear his take on King Solomon.

I'd love for the Pope to clean out the corruption from the Vatican and the Vatican Bank, and get the Vatican Banks claws out of all the shady business transactions around the world, before he goes off on a fella who is making a fortune because of his own abilities and isn't hurting anyone while doing it.

[Chiefsmom]

Well sure.

Nobody should be richer than the church, right?  (In their eyes)

The Vatican is morally and spiritually corrupt.

Go Musk.

LOL  I honestly don't care, but of the two.....