Elizondo CIA UFO Op?

[Karl12]

Bumping this, dont send the infantry.

Well thanks very much for the bump mate.

Can't believe they took 'RedPandaKoala's YouTube Channel down - some great info in some of those videos.

Looks like the disinfo mob are in full swing lol.

[Karl12]

Can't believe they took 'RedPandaKoala's YouTube Channel down - some great info in some of those videos.

Well due to the backlash over ridiculously weak claims of copyright strikes look like the channel has now been reinstated.

[Karl12]

Not sure if Elizondo is setting them up so West can knock them down but thought this was an important vid featuring just some of Lou's promoted fictions.

The counterintelligence 'hijacking' of UFO research is also brought up as well as some relevant insights from Dolan and Liszt.





• UFO Mothership - Chandelier

• 1952 Washington DC photo - fake

• Pilot UFO photo - irrigation circles









Also a short compilation here featuring 'predictions' about the 2027 'alien invasion' narrative from usual players such as Elizondo, Ramirez,, Cornell, Kean, Sands, Greer, Pasulka etc.

[ARM1968]

For what it’s worth, and that’s likely not much at all, I’ve always seen Elizondo as a fraud at best and a still employed counter agent working against real disclosure at worst. He’s just off, really off.

[Karl12]

For what it’s worth, and that’s likely not much at all, I’ve always seen Elizondo as a fraud at best and a still employed counter agent working against real disclosure at worst. He’s just off, really off.

Appreciate the post mate - for what it's worth I completely agree and personally wouldn't trust the CIA/DIA/NSA (and TTSA) crowd to be open and honest about anything.

The intelligence services have been positively pathological in their dismissal and debunkery over the years (and many suspect even CSICOP pseudo-sceptics are on the CIA payroll) so wonder what's changed now?

One thing that makes me extremely suspicious is their obvious attempts at 'resetting' the subject and refusing to entertain historical reports or existing research from their own agencies (link) - refusing to address official research from other countries is also a bit of a red flag.

Don't know if you caught that Terry Hansen presentation (link) but thought it gave an illuminating backdrop to all these shenanigans and would really recommend his book 'The Missing Times' :


Link

Cheers.

[MotorexGTR32]

What about these ufologists/witnesses? Legitimately or Fraud like Mellon, Elizondo, Greer, Pope?

Richard Dolan
Budd Hopkins
Stanton Friedman
Donald Keyhoe
Bob Lazar
Jacques Vallee
Jesse Marcel 
William J. Birnes

I wanted to research more about the ufo and the subjects of the ufo history especially books.

[Karl12]

Yet more contradictions, confusion and possible misdirection involved with the 'Elizondo narrative'.

We know now:

AAWSAP got the contract, AATIP was a nickname for AAWSAP

Lacatksi and one of the lead scientists for BAASS deny Elizondo was involved with AAWSAP/AATIP – the program that was budgeted the $22M

The Pentagon did not create AAWSAP to investigate UFOs – Although AAWSAP did investigate UFOs, it was one of the least fringy things they took it upon themselves to look into, which is an important context the authors of the New York Times article left out.

Elizondo has claimed he was both part of AAWSAP and that he had nothing to do with AAWSAP.

Susan Gough does have an extremely dodgy background in psychological operations but here's what she had to say about Lou.

Department of Defense spokesperson Susan Gough recently told News Nation, “Luis Elizondo had no assigned responsibilities for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) while assigned to the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security.”



Links:

Pentagon’s UFO Program confusion and how the New York Times got it wrong

On the AAWSAP-AATIP Confusion - VICENTE-JUAN BALLESTER OLMOS

[Kwaka]

How Elizondo stands in the background of this presentation, comes across as a gate keeper with what does get out.

A couple of things with his book, he has worked deep at Gitmo. Also, Elizondo would of kept the tic tac video classified if it was up to him alone.

[Karl12]

A couple of things with his book, he has worked deep at Gitmo. Also, Elizondo would of kept the tic tac video classified if it was up to him alone.

Appreciate the input mate and not so much UFO related but if you're interested then RPK once did a lot of digging into his background


VIDEO

This first installment largely focuses on Lue Elizondo's father up to Elizondo's claims of remote viewing.

The topics covered in this video are:
the Spanish American War, Cuba of the early 1900s, Fulgencio Batista, Fidel Castro and the Cuban Revolution, Brigade 2506, the Bay of Pigs, JFK. Alpha 66, the JFK assasination, Lue Elizondo's early life and military career, Project Stragate, Scientology's influence on the Remote viewing programs, Hal Puthoff and Elizondo's relationship among other things .

Really would recommend that Dark Journalist video in the first post (and see any journalist actually ask the guy some hardball questions).

Would say Mellon's deep Rockefeller connections are serious cause for concern as are the MKUltra connections to TTSA as Lue is their director of 'Special Programs'.

As for frontman Tom Delonge then suppose it's also worth mentioning that Military Intelligence agencies are certainly not above using 'rockstars' in psychological operations (it worked quite well for them back in the 1960's).

Cheers.

[sahgwa]

What about these ufologists/witnesses? Legitimately or Fraud like Mellon, Elizondo, Greer, Pope?


I wanted to research more about the ufo and the subjects of the ufo history especially books.

We are not talking fraud here, they are all above board , but  i am talking facts vs wishy washy, we cant be sure


Def good

Richard Dolan
Stanton Friedman
Jacques Vallee
Jesse Marcel 


Iffy
Bob Lazar
Budd Hopkins
Donald Keyhoe
William J. Birnes

My humble opinion. 
No fraudsters outright though. 

Nothing bad like Greer or Elizondo or the like