Electrolytes Potentially Affected by Magnetic/Electric Fields

[Sirius]

Don't know where to place this. It's all very speculative around how UFO's could be messing with us  

So electrolytes are ions and can be messed with, the question for me is how long before side effects show. Imbalances in these can produce seizures that can explain some of the physiological effects people have during encounters. A little bit of this, a little bit of that, a bright flash of light or noise and BAM! you got yourself an embolized human

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Electrolytes Potentially Affected by Magnetic/Electric Fields

1. Sodium (Na⁺)

• Role:
  • Crucial for generating action potentials (nerve impulses).
    
  • Drives electrical activity in neurons and muscles.
    
• Susceptibility:
  • Sodium ions move across cell membranes during nerve signaling. Strong electric or magnetic fields might interfere with this movement, potentially disrupting nerve and muscle function.
    
  • Magnetic fields could theoretically alter sodium ion channels, affecting the excitability of neurons and cardiac cells.
    

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2. Potassium (K⁺)

• Role:
  • Regulates repolarization of neurons after action potentials.
    
  • Maintains the resting membrane potential of cells.
    
• Susceptibility:
  • Potassium channels are highly voltage-sensitive, meaning they respond to changes in electric potential. Strong electric fields might interfere with their normal function.
    
  • Disruptions could lead to irregular heart rhythms (arrhythmias) or altered neuronal firing patterns.
    

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3. Calcium (Ca²⁺)

• Role:
  • Acts as a signaling molecule for muscle contraction, neurotransmitter release, and numerous enzymatic processes.
    
  • Calcium channels are tightly regulated by voltage changes and are integral to heart and nerve function.
    
• Susceptibility:
  • Calcium ions and their channels are especially sensitive to electromagnetic fields (EMFs). Research has shown that certain EMFs can:
    • Alter the opening and closing of calcium channels.
      
    • Increase intracellular calcium levels, potentially triggering abnormal signaling.
      
  • Excessive intracellular calcium due to EMF exposure could lead to muscle spasms, seizures, or overactive neural responses.
    

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4. Magnesium (Mg²⁺)

• Role:
  • A natural calcium blocker; regulates nerve and muscle excitability.
    
  • Stabilizes cell membranes and reduces the likelihood of excessive electrical activity.
    
• Susceptibility:
  • Magnesium's role in stabilizing ion channels may make it indirectly affected by EMFs that target calcium or sodium channels.
    
  • Low magnesium levels could exacerbate the effects of electric or magnetic fields on other ions.
    

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5. Chloride (Cl⁻)

• Role:
  • Balances positive ions (like sodium and potassium) in cells.
    
  • Helps regulate the electrical potential across cell membranes.
    
• Susceptibility:
  • Chloride movement is essential for inhibitory signaling in the nervous system (via GABA receptors). EMFs could hypothetically alter these processes, leading to increased excitability or inhibition.
    

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6. Phosphate (PO₄³⁻)

• Role:
  • Involved in energy storage (e.g., ATP) and cellular signaling.
    
  • Plays a role in buffering pH levels in the body.
    
• Susceptibility:
  • Less directly affected by electric or magnetic fields compared to sodium, potassium, or calcium, but its involvement in ATP production and signaling pathways means indirect effects could occur.
    

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Key Systems Affected by Magnetic/Electric Fields via ElectrolytesNervous System

• Electric fields directly influence the movement of sodium, potassium, and calcium, disrupting action potentials and neurotransmission.
  
• Magnetoreception in Humans:
  • While more studied in animals (e.g., birds), there is some evidence that humans may have magnetite (iron oxide) in their brain tissue, which could theoretically interact with magnetic fields.
    
  • This interaction might affect neuronal activity or cause sensations like dizziness, confusion, or altered perception.
    

Cardiovascular System

• Cardiac cells rely heavily on sodium, potassium, and calcium for initiating and propagating electrical signals (heartbeat).
  
• Electric or magnetic interference could:
  • Disrupt the cardiac conduction system.
    
  • Lead to arrhythmias or other heart rhythm abnormalities.
    

Musculoskeletal System

• Muscle contractions depend on calcium influx into cells. Magnetic or electric fields might enhance or suppress calcium signaling, causing cramps, spasms, or weakness.
  

Cellular Processes

• Electromagnetic fields can:
  • Alter ion transport across membranes (e.g., via ion channels or pumps).
    
  • Disrupt the balance of electrolytes, potentially causing cellular stress or dysfunction.
    

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Research Insights

• Calcium Channels and EMFs:
  • Studies have shown that voltage-gated calcium channels (VGCCs) are highly sensitive to EMFs. Activation of VGCCs by electric fields can lead to excessive calcium entry into cells, resulting in oxidative stress or abnormal signaling.
    
• Low-Frequency Magnetic Fields:
  • Fields at low frequencies (e.g., 50-60 Hz) are known to interact with charged particles like ions. These interactions might subtly influence electrolyte dynamics in biological systems.
    
• High-Intensity Fields:
  • High-intensity fields (e.g., from industrial equipment) could have more pronounced effects on ion movement, potentially leading to noticeable physiological changes.
    

[Sirius]

The next time someone has an encounter go and have bloodwork done please, not a bad angle with other paranormal events also.

Either we learn something about the phenomena or you learn about a health condition, win win.

[midicon]

I don't believe in aliens period. I do however believe in UFOs and UAPs, just not the alien explanation.

I have often thought that electromagnetic and atmospheric phenomena can affect us however.

Also, that secret projects and advanced engineering is at play and sometimes too that field effects might be unavoidable or even deliberate.

People want to believe and that desire is exploited by the actors behind scenes.

[Byrd]

Don't know where to place this. It's all very speculative around how UFO's could be messing with us  

So electrolytes are ions and can be messed with, the question for me is how long before side effects show. Imbalances in these can produce seizures that can explain some of the physiological effects people have during encounters. A little bit of this, a little bit of that, a bright flash of light or noise and BAM! you got yourself an embolized human

That's not how it would work.

Ions are present in your body all the time (that's how the chemical processes of your body work.)  If you DIDN'T have those ions, you would be dead.  Immediately.  Ions are how your nervous system/brain works (no ions, no message transfer.  Your brain is what keeps your lungs active, your heart pumping, your digestive system digesting, muscles moving, etc.)

Your body is a finely tuned system and any slight imbalance gets corrected quickly (the response is usually within a few seconds; the actual clearing could take minutes) unless there's a HUGE imbalance.  Depending on what's out of whack, the imbalance could kill you in seconds (humans are tough, but surprisingly fragile in many ways.)

(I taught human anatomy labs for Texas Tech University.)

Also, that's not how electromagnetic fields work (otherwise your average computer monitor would have done all that to you in an instant... not to mention the fields generated by the electrical wiring in your house and in your car, etc, etc.)

[CCoburn]

I don't believe in aliens period.

I used to believe in something similar to that, but not exactly. A few decades ago, I used to believe that star systems, galaxies, and even the universe itself was largely a product of design, and either extra-terrestrials were a part of that design, or they weren't.

I didn't believe in the randomness of extra-terrestrials interfering with these things that were designed, unless of course it was "designed" to be that way. I also believed that given the vastness of the universe that various lifeforms could be created galaxies(or farther) apart that would prevent them from interfering with one another e.g. a form of encapsulation.

Without remaining within a specific scope of "aliens" though such as the greys for example and expanding the "scope" to include the possible existence of any and all lifeforms beyond the terrestrial sphere. I would have to say yes. I do believe.

These days I think we even got entities popping in and out of existence within the terrestrial sphere itself.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Almost everyone has experienced ions screwing with them.

Positive ions make us negative.

On windy days, the movement of air can generate a higher concentration of positive ions, which may lead to some people experiencing feelings of irritability, restlessness, fatigue, or even headaches, as research suggests exposure to positive ions can have a negative impact on mood and cognitive function compared to negative ions; essentially, your brain might react with a slightly less positive or more agitated state due to the increased positive ions in the air.

We react to the charge of the environment? We react to electromagnetism. In really seems to boil down to how charged ions react with biological signals.

What I like is it's always down in the Schumann Resonances range, like between 5 and 100 hertz. Or the frequency of our conscious brainwaves. I just see it is as somehow linked to consciousness itself. Like it might just be interference caused by a particular frequency.

I know nothing of this science and am pulling ideas out of a void to do this response. But after giving it an ADD overview it seems elements in our bodies react in these low frequency ranges. Which builds a web of random pieces together to suggest we are seriously walking theta, beta, and gamma wave puppets that can be physically controlled like a robot, which is just unsettling.

[midicon]

I used to believe in something similar to that, but not exactly. A few decades ago, I used to believe that star systems, galaxies, and even the universe itself was largely a product of design, and either extra-terrestrials were a part of that design, or they weren't.

I didn't believe in the randomness of extra-terrestrials interfering with these things that were designed, unless of course it was "designed" to be that way. I also believed that given the vastness of the universe that various lifeforms could be created galaxies(or farther) apart that would prevent them from interfering with one another e.g. a form of encapsulation.

Without remaining within a specific scope of "aliens" though such as the greys for example and expanding the "scope" to include the possible existence of any and all lifeforms beyond the terrestrial sphere. I would have to say yes. I do believe.

These days I think we even got entities popping in and out of existence within the terrestrial sphere itself.

Nothing wrong with believing. I used to believe and followed every story.

I still keep an eye on the UFO phenomena but it's just entertainment really.

Regarding this thread about the effects that might accompany such 'encounters'. My comment was really about the psychological, not the physical if that makes sense.

I'm an old Jungian of sorts. I say that as it might clarify my perspective a little.

[Sirius]

Also, that's not how electromagnetic fields work (otherwise your average computer monitor would have done all that to you in an instant... not to mention the fields generated by the electrical wiring in your house and in your car, etc, etc.)

This is why we wear tinfoil hats.

I think the tech exists and these poor folks where all having seizures UFOs And Stopped Clocks

[Sirius]

What I like is it's always down in the Schumann Resonances range, like between 5 and 100 hertz. Or the frequency of our conscious brainwaves. I just see it is as somehow linked to consciousness itself. Like it might just be interference caused by a particular frequency.

I like this, we evolved and live under that influence. This leads to the environment is being changed around a subject and that is effecting the bioelectrical chemistry rather than directly targeting a specific function.

The goal doesn't have to be absolute control, just incapacitation and a seizure accomplishes that.  It even explains memory loss and trouble telling time etc.

[Sirius]

6. Targeted Ion Channel Modulation

• How It Works:
  • Devices could specifically target voltage-gated ion channels (VGICs) like those for calcium, sodium, or potassium, using precisely tuned electromagnetic or electric fields.
    
  • Nanotechnology: Nano-scale electrodes or implants might enhance the precision of such targeting.
    
• Potential Applications/Devices:
  • Ion-Sensitive Electrophysiology Devices: These could theoretically be designed to interact with bioelectric signaling pathways.
    

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8. Resonance-Based Technologies

• How It Works:
  • Specific frequencies of electromagnetic or acoustic energy could resonate with biological systems, potentially amplifying or disrupting natural rhythms.
    
  • Calcium Resonance Hypothesis: EMFs tuned to calcium's natural resonant frequency might open calcium channels excessively, causing overexcitation.
    
• Potential Applications/Devices:
  • Frequency Modulation Devices: Technologies capable of fine-tuning electromagnetic or acoustic signals to specific biological resonances.
    

 

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hmmmm, nanobots and devices...satellites.

ChatGPT gave 10 different ways to build technology in order to influence ions and all equally horrifying. I'm having some regrets now.