Elections are no longer about presidents

[MykeNukem]

Not sure that’s entirely correct anymore, sounds good for an earlier generation who had leadership who cared about the people, had a set of principles the majority agreed with
Those ideals are now dead
I disagree with many peoples opinions and the right they espouse and I will not die fighting for those I deem unworthy
The US army can’t get recruits, many think the same

And let’s be honest, what has gone on these past 5 years and nobody has done anything
Words?

Modern society is a cauldron of opposing idealism

I'm old school I guess, I still believe all that crap, lol.

Pretty much agree with ya, and maybe I should have omitted the word die, maybe I should have just said defend, as in Rights as spelled out by our respective Constitutions. 

I don't consider anyone "unworthy", but I hear where you're coming from. 

Your last statement is dead on too, it's causing a lot of friction.

[Creaky]

I'm old school I guess, I still believe all that crap, lol.

Pretty much agree with ya, and maybe I should have omitted the word die, maybe I should have just said defend, as in Rights as spelled out by our respective Constitutions. 

I don't consider anyone "unworthy", but I hear where you're coming from. 

Your last statement is dead on too, it's causing a lot of friction.

It’s a pity you are no longer imho correct 
society is collapsing and we are told it’s all good

people deserve the benefit of the doubt but, I don’t doubt after seeing their actions. It all changed so quickly

[StevieRay]

It’s a pity you are no longer imho correct 
society is collapsing and we are told it’s all good

people deserve the benefit of the doubt but, I don’t doubt after seeing their actions. It all changed so quickly

Today, we have let the politicians push us into a 50-50 split, or even more fractured, to control us. We used to outnumber them by having a nearly homogenous society that wanted the same general goals and successes for the country. The politicians have Balkanized us into the smallest, most selfish, most mentally sick groups possible. But it happens in every revolution so what the hey …..

[StevieRay]

There’s a thread over at OG ats, about Kamala’s embarrassing tv ad. That’s it in a nutshell. Playing straight to the mentally retarded of society. And it works on the worst among us.

[Waterglass]

. . . . they are about ideology.

Way back when, we used to be able to pretend that both parties wanted the same thing, they just had different ways of going about it.

That's all gone now.

We want different things now.

Some want freedom, others welcome a soft tyranny.

"Soft tyranny is an idea first developed by Alexis de Tocqueville in his 1835 work titled Democracy in America.[sup][1][/sup] It is described as the individualist preference for equality and its pleasures, requiring the state – as a tyrant majority or a benevolent authority – to step in and adjudicate.[sup][2][/sup] In this regime, political leaders operate under a blanket of restrictions and, while it retains the practical virtues of democracy, citizens influence policymaking through bureaucrats and non-governmental organizations.[sup][3][/sup] This is distinguished from despotism or tyranny (hard tyranny) in the sense that state of government in such democratic society is composed of guardians who hold immense and tutelary (protective) power.[sup][4]"[/sup]
Soft tyranny - Wikipedia

That's why people will vote for a convicted felon vs a dementia-riddled old man.

Their either voting against the opponent's ideology or for their own.

Wow, if our corrupt USDOJ along with all those others in "Justice" went after the drug dealers, Cartels and the others like they went after "conivcted felon" aka Trump the world would really be a better place. 

Fking dirt bags to the extreme.

[Maxmars]

This is the problem with 'social engineering' in government.

"Departments" shouldn't act as political arms for parties.  But this is part and parcel with "political-appointees," (no surprises there.)

It was bad enough when the government 'decided' that they are now allowed to "influence" media to "affect public understanding and dialog"... now our oath-sworn 'servants of the people' represent only the "parties" that appoint them... not the will of the citizens.

"Private" commerce broke the peoples' government... everything's for sale... including 'facts.'