EL NIÑO IS COMING!

[DBCowboy]

Money scam + virtue signaling + self created problem. 

A patch on something realized too late. So its more a road to hell of best intention and scrambling to pretend like they care most about the children's children. 

Will 2026 break the trend of the last 11 years being the hottest on record?  Probably not.  

But at no point since Gore won his Nobel prize has the temperature stopped going up year over year, or the rate decreased. At no point has renewable or climate accord anything stopped what is happening. 

So until we get some volcanic/impact winter effects, or intentionally put sulfates into the upper atmosphere, this PZEV plan is making it worse anyway... a little warming  and even less cooling is still a compounding imbalance. 

So its a scam in that the money grabbing attempts are for futile plans, but not a scam in that the warming is happening.

How much warming?

Who's taking the temps?

What equipment are they using?

Does it correlate to previous equipment?

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Lol. Would you even acknowledge the response? I could write in a fake alien language and I don't think anything would change. But lets find out. I'll know by what 7 words you use to respond.  
 

How much warming?

Who's taking the temps?

What equipment are they using?

Does it correlate to previous equipment?

Oh, only about .20 to .35 degrees celcius per decade, depending on decade. 

But by contrast, during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum 56 million years ago, it only increased 0.01 to 0.03 degrees celcius per decade.  It took natural earth 2000 years then to do what we've done since 1970. 

But you'd have to believe the education of people who went to school for geology, and then accept their explanation for how science knows the earth's temperature only rose at a fraction of today all those millions of years ago... without assuming science is the devil. 

its a lot of isotope decay and consistent sediment accumulation rates.  

And ive tried defending it (particularly with creationists) but all data points 56 million year old have a ± that is always within a margain that invalidates any one observation in the present, so its prone to being picked apart by flawed logic and fallacy that refuses the overall picture of serveral ± lining up for an average. 

So even if it is going up a known rate of .2 degrees C per decade until 1970, when it accelerated to .35 degrees per decade, the changes are still so geologically minimal to notice, its dismissed outright.  

Anyway, with only 1 foot of sea level rise so far, only a couple of reefs in the Pacific have been lost.

And by 2100, based on a rate you will probably dismiss, thats  another 1 to 2 feet of sea level and a total rise of 3 to 4 degrees Celcius in temperature.

That's still at a rate tens to hundreds of times greater than anything in earth's history. So welcome to The Anthropocene Thermal Maximum, Earth. 

And next answer, I use gibberish words instead.

[Blackfingers]

You do know people have been recording daily weather for a very very long time and discovered "shock,horror....Patterns..."

[quintessentone]

Hard to say really.  It's like sitting on top of a bald head. 

Only low vegetation and no real protection 360 degrees.  There is an issue of isolation if lower access gets washed out.

Only saving grace (besides no flooding) -- house was built by my kid's great-grandfather back in 1957.  No house noises -- not even a squeak in high winds.  

Great place if you get claustrophobic.

I hope you are prepping water, food, hand crank radio and medical supplies.

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"Historical wind storms in California often involve the Santa Ana winds, strong, dry katabatic winds from the Great Basin that affect coastal Southern California.  These winds, known for causing destructive wildfires due to low humidity and high speeds, have historical records including a 14-day event in November 1957 and the January 2025 Southern California wildfires.  Other wind phenomena include Sundowner winds in Santa Barbara, which are downslope winds causing significant warming, and general desert storms that can reach gale force in mountain passes like Cajon Pass and San Gorgonio Pass." (LLM)

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I hope all the winds that may head you way will be downslope winds. Take care and prepare.

[DBCowboy]

Lol. Would you even acknowledge the response? I could write in a fake alien language and I don't think anything would change. But lets find out. I'll know by what 7 words you use to respond.  
 

Oh, only about .20 to .35 degrees celcius per decade, depending on decade. 

But by contrast, during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum 56 million years ago, it only increased 0.01 to 0.03 degrees celcius per decade.  It took natural earth 2000 years then to do what we've done since 1970. 

But you'd have to believe the education of people who went to school for geology, and then accept their explanation for how science knows the earth's temperature only rose at a fraction of today all those millions of years ago... without assuming science is the devil. 

its a lot of isotope decay and consistent sediment accumulation rates.  

And ive tried defending it (particularly with creationists) but all data points 56 million year old have a ± that is always within a margain that invalidates any one observation in the present, so its prone to being picked apart by flawed logic and fallacy that refuses the overall picture of serveral ± lining up for an average. 

So even if it is going up a known rate of .2 degrees C per decade until 1970, when it accelerated to .35 degrees per decade, the changes are still so geologically minimal to notice, its dismissed outright.  

Anyway, with only 1 foot of sea level rise so far, only a couple of reefs in the Pacific have been lost.

And by 2100, based on a rate you will probably dismiss, thats  another 1 to 2 feet of sea level and a total rise of 3 to 4 degrees Celcius in temperature.

That's still at a rate tens to hundreds of times greater than anything in earth's history. So welcome to The Anthropocene Thermal Maximum, Earth. 

And next answer, I use gibberish words instead.

I have a hard time understanding your posts and English is my first language.

[Byrd]

Lol. Would you even acknowledge the response? I could write in a fake alien language and I don't think anything would change. But lets find out. I'll know by what 7 words you use to respond.  
 

Oh, only about .20 to .35 degrees celcius per decade, depending on decade. 

But by contrast, during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum 56 million years ago, it only increased 0.01 to 0.03 degrees celcius per decade.  It took natural earth 2000 years then to do what we've done since 1970. 

But you'd have to believe the education of people who went to school for geology, and then accept their explanation for how science knows the earth's temperature only rose at a fraction of today all those millions of years ago... without assuming science is the devil. 

its a lot of isotope decay and consistent sediment accumulation rates.  

And ive tried defending it (particularly with creationists) but all data points 56 million year old have a ± that is always within a margain that invalidates any one observation in the present, so its prone to being picked apart by flawed logic and fallacy that refuses the overall picture of serveral ± lining up for an average. 

So even if it is going up a known rate of .2 degrees C per decade until 1970, when it accelerated to .35 degrees per decade, the changes are still so geologically minimal to notice, its dismissed outright.  

Anyway, with only 1 foot of sea level rise so far, only a couple of reefs in the Pacific have been lost.

And by 2100, based on a rate you will probably dismiss, thats  another 1 to 2 feet of sea level and a total rise of 3 to 4 degrees Celcius in temperature.

That's still at a rate tens to hundreds of times greater than anything in earth's history. So welcome to The Anthropocene Thermal Maximum, Earth. 

And next answer, I use gibberish words instead.

You might also point to the changing planting zones (about halfway down on this page from the Nevada Master Gardeners -- https://mgnv.org/climate-change/new-usda-zone-map/)

More than heat and cold, it also affects how far north certain plants can grow, how far north some pests can move (good example: fire ants in Texas.  They can't survive below certain temperatures... and they've been moving north as temperatures warm.), and how much water there is and where.

If you look at the maps from the Nevada Master Gardeners, you can see how much warmer the mountains (and Rockies, in particular) are getting.  That means the snow melts earlier than expected and you get either too much water or not enough water.  I did look at some collected data from almanacs and noticed that in Denver the snow season now starts later than it did back in the 1900's and even 1950's.

[Tecate]

Ok, so the climate is changing.

The Inuit people I work with have been saying that for years. The Dene as well.

They also say that it is cyclical. Their passed down history tells stories of long grasses growing on the tundra, and much larger animals, likely Mammoth, because the Dene still have Bison.

If (huge if), it’s a man-made issue from the Industrial Revolution on, then there’s no way in hell we are going to get Russia, China and India to back off and “go green”.

So we had better adapt or die. 

Meh, my 2 pesos…

Tecate

[SteamyAmerican]

I hope you are prepping water, food, hand crank radio and medical supplies.

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"Historical wind storms in California often involve the Santa Ana winds, strong, dry katabatic winds from the Great Basin that affect coastal Southern California.  These winds, known for causing destructive wildfires due to low humidity and high speeds, have historical records including a 14-day event in November 1957 and the January 2025 Southern California wildfires.  Other wind phenomena include Sundowner winds in Santa Barbara, which are downslope winds causing significant warming, and general desert storms that can reach gale force in mountain passes like Cajon Pass and San Gorgonio Pass." (LLM)

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I hope all the winds that may head you way will be downslope winds. Take care and prepare.

Yeah I live in the county. Both sundowners and Santa Anas are known phenomena and at times can be quite powerful and a little spooky. Where I live up the coast, it’s temperate most yearlong, and there’s usually a midday onshore breeze that clears the fog. I prefer the fog as windy days can look nice until you step outside. But they both help with the wine here. 

So when one of these two winds come along in late afternoon, they can be spectacular as they are also unusual. Driving up temperatures as the sun sets is an interesting feeling.

I remember clearly the January event. It was like the first of the year, and you could just tell besides the smell of smoke, there was destruction in the Southland afoot.

To be clear, the fire danger along the coast increases exponentially. All it takes is a lit cigarette out the window or sparks from chains dragging on a highway and an inferno easily ensues.

[andy06shake]

There is no "whether" 

Tell that to my Tomato plants and Peas... 

[andy06shake]

Ok, so the climate is changing.

The Inuit people I work with have been saying that for years. The Dene as well.

They also say that it is cyclical. Their passed down history tells stories of long grasses growing on the tundra, and much larger animals, likely Mammoth, because the Dene still have Bison.

If (huge if), it’s a man-made issue from the Industrial Revolution on, then there’s no way in hell we are going to get Russia, China and India to back off and “go green”.

So we had better adapt or die. 

Meh, my 2 pesos…

Tecate

Thats what we do, is is not?

That being, adapt and overcome.

The problem being 8.3 billion of us.

But it's correct to suggest our Earth moves in epochs.

And we're living through the warmer tail-end of a larger ice age aka the Quaternary glaciation...