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Donald Trump found guilty on all counts in ‘hush money’ trial
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(05-31-2024, 03:18 PM)Maxmars Wrote: the legal system has been changed by it's constituents.  Of course, this cannot last for these people are all mortal.  Our answer should bear out in oversight which we cannot allow the establishment to "man with political appointees" as we have done for decades.  I'm not sure how that could work unless our representatives stop obeying "the unaccountable party" and start obeying the actual citizens at large.  The conduct of the media has made that more difficult... with the whole "true journalism is old-fashioned" thing.

The fix starts by excluding their performance-driven narrative from the actual decision-making.  I don't think the thespian core in politics and the producers in media want that... ever.

City, County, and State jurisdictions are always going to have wider extremes, thus even though this verdict seems extrajudicial our systems of appeals should clarify or rectify the case in due course. 

WE can not jump off the horse mid-stream, we have to let the process play out. 

which reminds me of the story from the 50s I read in The Straight Dope, true or not it highlights our democracy can sometimes be bent toward the will of the less informed.

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sl...t/147418/2
Quote:
Quote:Sometimes arcane and high-falutin’ words can be used as weapons. No one knew this better than former Senator Claude Pepper of Florida. In 1950, Pepper, a three-term incumbent, ran for re-election and faced off against Congressman George Smathers in the Democratic primary. Smathers launched an infamous smear campaign against Pepper that today sounds more like a fake political ad from Saturday Night Live.
Smathers outed Pepper as “a known extrovert,” his sister as a “thespian,” and his brother as a “practicing homo sapien.” He accused Pepper of practicing “nepotism” with his sister-in-law and of “matriculating” with young women in college. Worst of all, he “practiced celibacy” before marriage.
Naturally, voters were horrified, and Pepper lost by over 67,000 votes. (To be fair, Smathers denied the story until the end of his Senate career in 1971, perhaps fearing that his own homo sapien past would come back to haunt him.)
Interview with Claude Pepper. He does not mention it.
http://www.history.ufl.edu/oral/FP30.html 2
Quote:He recalls that in the election of 1950, six senior senators were defeated, including himself, over the liberal issues of national health insurance, civil rights, liberal attitudes favoring labor, minimum wage, and adequate hospital and medical care.
An analysis of the election, which does not mention it.
http://www.folioweekly.com/archives/old%...page7.html

 
Quote:Sometimes arcane and high-falutin’ words can be used as weapons. No one knew this better than former Senator Claude Pepper of Florida. In 1950, Pepper, a three-term incumbent, ran for re-election and faced off against Congressman George Smathers in the Democratic primary. Smathers launched an infamous smear campaign against Pepper that today sounds more like a fake political ad from Saturday Night Live.
Smathers outed Pepper as “a known extrovert,” his sister as a “thespian,” and his brother as a “practicing homo sapien.” He accused Pepper of practicing “nepotism” with his sister-in-law and of “matriculating” with young women in college. Worst of all, he “practiced celibacy” before marriage.
Naturally, voters were horrified, and Pepper lost by over 67,000 votes. (To be fair, Smathers denied the story until the end of his Senate career in 1971, perhaps fearing that his own homo sapien past would come back to haunt him.)
Interview with Claude Pepper. He does not mention it.
http://www.history.ufl.edu/oral/FP30.html 2
Quote:He recalls that in the election of 1950, six senior senators were defeated, including himself, over the liberal issues of national health insurance, civil rights, liberal attitudes favoring labor, minimum wage, and adequate hospital and medical care.

 
Quote:There were overtones of McCarthyism in Smathers’ campaign. A booklet emphasizing Pepper’s past associations with the far-left, including known communist organizations and party members, was circulated in the late days of the campaign. It emphasized the “Red Pepper” theme, a Pepper sobriquet gleaned from an earlier article in the Saturday Evening Post. By 1950, most Americans recognized the threat posed by the Soviet Union, and Pepper’s actions seemingly on its behalf was a source of dismay to many, and treasonous to others. That, coupled to the strong opposition of the business community, unions, and the medical profession gave Smathers the victory. Pepper was defeated by more than 60,000 votes.
So, you tell me. Smathers denies it, Pepper himself and a fairly serious analysis of the election don’t mention it. That’s about as far as I got.
I don’t think Florida voters were that ignorant in 1950, so if I had to guess, I’d guess that it’s just a “humorous rustics” story repeated by columnists.
 
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RE: Donald Trump found guilty on all counts in ‘hush money’ trial - by putnam6 - 05-31-2024, 03:45 PM

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