Zahi Hawass on Joe Rogan

[Harte]

I watched the entire thing.
Hawass got a few this "wrong," mostly misstatements and from not understanding what Joe was getting at.
After all, English is not Hawass' forte.

Overall, Hawass was very strong on everything he said, though no doubt conspiracy idiots will parse his words.

Flint Dibble did a livestream reaction video to the Hawass interview. Haven't watched it yet, but here it is.



Harte

[Hanslune]

ZH is a Muslim and the Qur'an says magic is real, if you say its not it is blasphemy and against the law. That is common restriction in most Muslim countries, disagreeing with the prophet Mohamed will get you killed very quickly. I lived and worked in the ME on and off from 1983 to 2011 and worked for a number of Muslim countries, they don't have any such thing as 'freedom of speech".

[SideEyeEverything]

I have not spent much (any) time digging into this false narrative of ancient Egypt, but now I am intrigued. I've done a bit of searching X and the Goog but am having trouble finding details. Any suggestions on some good resources/sites?

I much prefer reading and rarely have the time or desire to watch YT or listen to hours-long podcasts, so bonus points for reading material. I don't mind doing the work and digging myself, but feel like search results are being suppressed or buried pages deep.

*off to scan the ancient civilizations forum*

[Harte]

I have not spent much (any) time digging into this false narrative of ancient Egypt, but now I am intrigued. I've done a bit of searching X and the Goog but am having trouble finding details. Any suggestions on some good resources/sites?

I much prefer reading and rarely have the time or desire to watch YT or listen to hours-long podcasts, so bonus points for reading material. I don't mind doing the work and digging myself, but feel like search results are being suppressed or buried pages deep.

*off to scan the ancient civilizations forum*

Ancient Egypt Antiquities

Harte

[pianopraze]

I don’t believe hardly anything they say about anchient civilians. I think we will learn most of it’s wrong when all the evidence is looked at outside our current societal matrix…

ie they will look back in a hundred years and think we were idiots.

[Avicula]

Hawass has always been there for his own self promotion. He is an utter moron and has been a slavish follower of convention. The fact he and other are still flogging the copper chisels, diorite pounding stone and flint tool narrative is utterly laughable. It wasn’t aliens but it also wasn’t people using such primitive tools. Our entire history has been obscured and bent to a purpose I cannot fathom.

It’s also not entirely unknown that Hawass has made some coin in the antiquities black market. His name was almost guaranteed to be a part of any of “those” conversations long before he ever appeared on any of the Discovery or History Channel programs that brought him more mainstream attention. The man is a charlatan and a fraud, and, I would add, a straight up thief and smuggler. 

Bringing him onto Rogan’s show will have the same long-term benefit that having Flint Dibble appear ultimately had. The “experts” are often simply parrots who repeat the consensus views. The same (I would submit even worse) problem exists in cosmology as well. I love the fact that Rogan will always give both sides an equal opportunity to make their case. Academia vilified Hancock and Carlson for years…until they started to show up with evidence and in some cases, proof. Not to say they theirs is THE accurate historical picture, but it is rather hard to ignore the data. Carlson in particular has this annoying (to the experts) tendency to show up with receipts.

In light of this most recent episode with Zahi Hawass, I’d wager classical Egyptology as we know it is going to at least be upended sooner rather than later… Like they say - Science advances one funeral at a time.

[Inspector44]

This dude's entire persona and way of life relies on the fact he is the gate keeper of Egypt archaeology. He is a fool. The Egyptians found the pyramids and probably used slaves to clear the sand from the area but they didn't build them. If they did build them, why wasn't that architecture continued on in their society? Why did they just stop and then destroy any evidence of them building these things?

[BeyondKnowledge]

This dude's entire persona and way of life relies on the fact he is the gate keeper of Egypt archaeology. He is a fool. The Egyptians found the pyramids and probably used slaves to clear the sand from the area but they didn't build them. If they did build them, why wasn't that architecture continued on in their society? Why did they just stop and then destroy any evidence of them building these things?

I agree. They moved in and redocerated the place but had nothing to do with construction.

Just my overall view of the presented evidence and how it is presented. Someone before Egyptians had a higher level of technology that was lost.

[Harte]

I agree. They moved in and redocerated the place but had nothing to do with construction.

Just my overall view of the presented evidence and how it is presented. Someone before Egyptians had a higher level of technology that was lost.

I can't agree.
Apparently, I can't post a pic either.

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[MichSwampbuck]

I should think we all learned our lesson about archeology after Piltdown Man or how it was "common knowledge" that black Africans were the missing link. Then you have the term "caveman" for prehistoric people and their characterization as stupid brutes. That idea was due to the fact that the only evidence the archeologists found was preserved in caves where the least intelligent, or laziest, of the tribe lived. Now they are finally coming around to how advanced and intelligent Neanderthals actually were, even though they knew their brains were larger than "modern" humans are.

These "experts" make up shit all the time. It is usually to try and make "modern" man seem better and more advanced than prehistoric people. It seems that it is also to belittle the very people who made civilization possible. Hell, look at the crap they are making up about our current society like critical race theory, revisionist histories, and the classic anthropomorphic climate change. To top it all off, they have Bill Nye, former custodian and liberal freak, as "The Science Guy", a total tool-hack compared to Don Herbert as Mr Wizard IMO.