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What the hell do you say to that? I almost said, "For the love of God would you go get laid!"
Getting laid is not an answer. It doesn't solve someone's problems with forming satisfying relationship.
I think a lot of cases of deviant behavior is caused by the lack of father figure during childhood. If someone is brought up by an overbearing mother while the father is absent, doesn't care or has toxic personality, the child ends up being unable to form meaningful relationship with the opposite sex. Daughters end up as lesbians, lonely cat ladies or, at worst, get stuck in toxic relationships with male narcissists. Sons get to hate females because of the dominant mother or become effeminate. A toxic relationship with one's mother usually results in toxic relationships in adult life.
I know I'm overgeneralizing and there can be other reasons for someone's inability to form healthy relationships in adult life. But I know from my own experience that the child needs both the father and mother to develop properly. The mother will not replace the father. My father was largely absent in my life and today I'm unable to trust any guy. I always think he will abandon me after having sex just like my father left my mom.
And if someone is to get stuck in a pathological relationship and torment oneself and other people, then it's better to stay single. Not everyone is emotionally fit to live in a relationship. "Get laid" is nature's imperative and social expectation. It was crucial in the time of Neanderthals to pass on one's genes and prolong human species. Not so much today. I would say today societies have more problems with pathological families than alienated singles
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Possibly a "get laid", as far as advice to seek intimate, if not necessarily carnal, human contact in person rather than staring at life through the reflection of a black mirror cell phone. I believe the young ones say "touch grass", to refer to connecting with nature for that, when the concrete walls of the echo chambers become to oppressively echoing. Sometimes seeing the empathy and compassion in another human's eyes is worth more than any reply you can make via SMS. It's about being heard.
I followed the Science, and all I found was the Money.
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(10-27-2024, 07:36 AM)Anna Wrote: What the hell do you say to that? I almost said, "For the love of God would you go get laid!"
Getting laid is not an answer. It doesn't solve someone's problems with forming satisfying relationship.
I think a lot of cases of deviant behavior is caused by the lack of father figure during childhood. If someone is brought up by an overbearing mother while the father is absent, doesn't care or has toxic personality, the child ends up being unable to form meaningful relationship with the opposite sex. Daughters end up as lesbians, lonely cat ladies or, at worst, get stuck in toxic relationships with male narcissists. Sons get to hate females because of the dominant mother or become effeminate. A toxic relationship with one's mother usually results in toxic relationships in adult life.
I know I'm overgeneralizing and there can be other reasons for someone's inability to form healthy relationships in adult life. But I know from my own experience that the child needs both the father and mother to develop properly. The mother will not replace the father. My father was largely absent in my life and today I'm unable to trust any guy. I always think he will abandon me after having sex just like my father left my mom.
And if someone is to get stuck in a pathological relationship and torment oneself and other people, then it's better to stay single. Not everyone is emotionally fit to live in a relationship. "Get laid" is nature's imperative and social expectation. It was crucial in the time of Neanderthals to pass on one's genes and prolong human species. Not so much today. I would say today societies have more problems with pathological families than alienated singles
I'm still at a bit of a loss here so I may have to fabricate or at best at least embellish a bit, but I do recall similar scenario(s) from other forum(s); you may even have vague recollection of what I'm alluding here Anna.
We could call it a black sheep; seeming somewhat subtlety synonymous with the so-called black swan of swan lake - the metaphorical gestapo grandma of psychotic situations and unforeseeable futures.
And while it surely seems sensible that the son of a solo parent may signify a synopsis of a splintered psyche, it surely still shouldn't make them any smarter. A seemingly smudgy spot within such a psychotic setting - some are simply sociopathic spawn since the start.
You can trust me Anna. I love cats too, and their comfort is compounded even more in the cold of winter - it's almost here.
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(10-26-2024, 07:50 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: This is a thread I want back, but it screwed up my day, and my empathy for his traumatic self pity party has about run it's course.
This "Oh won't you please stop me from self-destructing." thing is borderline and a little feminine - like a passive-aggressive drama queen, of any gender, but im genuinely wondering if he's serious. Kinda like wolf cries with a little bit of emotional blackmail reading it.
Worth noting, is he's a self-proclaimed "satanist," which factors into this more than you'd think. Especially all the spiteful pride shit he did deliberately to keep himself alone - for control. No letting anything not dictated by him happen. Now, I'm wondering if the deprivation psychologically split his mind in a dissociative or even "demonic" way somewhere along the lines.
Freedom of religion is a right, so not going to judge.
However Crowley & Parsons stuff did not end well. Have run across more than a few folks who kept leaning towards the dark stuff. Problem is not everyone is cut out for it. It's a very fine balance that most can't achieve. You are absolutely going to have to "pay that piper" the real problem being if you've been 1/2 @zzing it & not good at the dark side was it really worth it? You're going to pay the same price if your 100% at it or sucky at it.
Now I'm NOT encouraging anyone go this route, but if you aren't going to do the work, the education needed then you're just wrapping yourself in the trappings like THAT'S gonna work! Usually not, people end up miserable. Just as miserable as what they used the Dark Side to run away from.
* note;
Crowley & Parsons were actually using old Summerian stuff, same as Russell Targ an the guys at Sandia so not exactly "Satanic". A distinction most hobbiest self proclaimed satanists are clueless about. DUH!!!
Because being a self proclaimed @zz-hat my first inclination is to challenge them to show me what ya got! Usually they got nada. Which they have to face right there, right then.
They may be able to impress a less knowledgeble crowd but not anyone who isn't door stop stupid.
Despite your frustration with your friend's behavior people "get stuck" in loops an just need a push to right themselves. Or more time to finally hit their own personal rock bottom. Call your friend on their "snip" an give them a choice.
Ya never know.
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10-27-2024, 01:05 PM
This post was last modified 10-27-2024, 01:44 PM by IdeomotorPrisoner. 
I think he's EXACTLY Crowley, without the Heroin. Too much love under will has left him an overreacting queen with absolutely no behavioral filter and self control when not getting his way. Which runs with any fleeting emotion in a way more "Ideomotor" way than I could ever possibly hope to achieve.
He's been a weird friend, but now he's doing all the creepy things he's traditionally done to others, especially girls he runs to for sympathy. And if he wants to take me off his creepiness non-contact list, I'll make it the spectacle he wants.
Show affection to your fucking kids, give them strong role models, I don't know what else to say otherwise.
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This post was last modified 10-27-2024, 03:58 PM by Quantum12.
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(10-27-2024, 01:05 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: I think he's EXACTLY Crowley, without the Heroin.
My friend drove me coo coo too! I am done.
Be kind to everyone!
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We're being honest here, right?
Please don't take offense, I'm not judging...
I'm uncomfortable because it feels kind of improperly voyeuristic to be 'looking in' on this personal exchange... even by invitation.
I applaud your comfort-level, but I think it is kind of hurtful to share it so candidly.
I don't doubt you're correct that this is over-the-top... you probably should get away from it.
Am I a jerk for saying so? I truly don't mean to be.
Maybe I'm overly empathetic, or sympathetic... crazy, huh?
'Dignity,' only we can stop a humiliation fire.
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This post was last modified 10-27-2024, 04:14 PM by IdeomotorPrisoner. 
Consider this like a "destruction ritual"of the drama this character caused.
And I even cringe a little airing even what's slightly deserved.
My apologies. Close thread if you'd like.
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(10-27-2024, 03:56 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Consider this like a "destruction ritual"of the drama this character caused.
And I even cringe a little airing even even what's slightly deserved.
My apologies. Close thread if you'd like.
Oh please no!
I wasn't meaning to imply that there was anything objectionable about your choice to discuss it here...
It is actually quite compelling.
I felt so silly reading it and thinking "I would be mortified if I were behaving in such a manner, and had it exposed to strangers"...
I suppose I focused on that... and in retrospect, I should have just kept that to myself.
That seems to happen whenever I start with "We're being honest, right?" (You'd think I would learn... )
You have every right to share it... and everyone is engaged and participating...
My discomfort was my own...
(let me tell you something... I probably would have wanted to share it too.)
Please forgive me... I'm like anyone else... I am interested, just a bit old-fashioned, I guess.
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Well your friend is clearly bad at reading character, go figure.
jk, you seem nice, I'm sure your friend is too when not being psychotic. If it's detrimental or you feel in danger cut them lose.
compassion, even when hope is lost
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