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05-29-2026, 08:58 AM
This post was last modified: 05-29-2026, 08:59 AM by Grim Reaper 6. 
(05-28-2026, 10:48 PM)Cormac Mac Airt Wrote: True, see Ring Species:
Ring Species
Also, Neanderthals as well as Denisovans genetically fall OUTSIDE the normal range of the Homo sapiens genome so as to be sufficiently recognized as distinctly separate species!
cormac
Thanks for the link, and I totally agree that they were distinctly different species.
Thanks Mac
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(05-29-2026, 02:18 AM)ArMaP Wrote: Not always, there are some cases of mules having offspring, and those could have mule, horse or donkey characteristics.
I have never heard of that, to my knowledge they are sterile due to the difference in the number of chromosomes they have. Do you have a source that explains how male or female mules can reproduce.
Thanks
https://www.mulequipeut.com/en/post/sexu...nd-hinnies
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(05-29-2026, 07:18 AM)Cormac Mac Airt Wrote: Being human has no bearing on being separate species. Any member of the genus Homo is human regardless of what species or subspecies they are. Apparently ignorance really is bliss for you.
cormac
Why are you arguing with me, take it up with the scientific community.
Like I care about some muppet on the internet
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(05-29-2026, 01:48 AM)Creaky Wrote: Ignored the whole point of the thread with that comment, just brushed over everything that the thread is about.
That wasn’t even part of the conversation.
They are passing their dna to the offspring generationally, GENERATIONALLY that’s the whole point of them being human, passing on dna, not just breeding
They are not passing their DNA Generationally, they are passing their DNA Biologically thus creating a genetic profile. Homo Neandertal and Homo Sapiens are part of the same extended family, however due to genetic differences they are distinctly Species within the designation Homo.
Here is a Peer Reviewed Journal that explains this better than I am able too.
Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and speciation complexity in palaeoanthropology: https://academic.oup.com/evolinnean/arti...ogin=false
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(05-29-2026, 09:20 AM)Grim Reaper 6 Wrote: I have never heard of that, to my knowledge they are sterile due to the difference in the number of chromosomes they have. Do you have a source that explains how male or female mules can reproduce.
Thanks
https://www.mulequipeut.com/en/post/sexu...nd-hinnies
I think they still don't know exactly how it happens, the article below talks about it
https://www.denverpost.com/2007/07/25/mules-foal-fools-genetics-with-impossible-birth/
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(05-29-2026, 09:32 AM)Creaky Wrote: Why are you arguing with me, take it up with the scientific community.
Like I care about some muppet on the internet
This is a discussion forum and you cared enough to post BS. If Neanderthals and Homo sapiens were the same species we would have MORE than 1 - 3% Neanderthal DNA in our genome. Besides, when introgression of Neanderthal DNA into our genome first occurred it was much higher than 1 - 3% but since then any deleterious genes or mutations have to a large degree been deleted from our genome. That would not be true if we were 100% the same species. Learn something first before showing your ignorance.
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Many prefer a reassuring lie over an inconvenient truth!
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(05-29-2026, 01:39 PM)Cormac Mac Airt Wrote: This is a discussion forum and you cared enough to post BS. If Neanderthals and Homo sapiens were the same species we would have MORE than 1 - 3% Neanderthal DNA in our genome. Besides, when introgression of Neanderthal DNA into our genome first occurred it was much higher than 1 - 3% but since then any deleterious genes or mutations have to a large degree been deleted from our genome. That would not be true if we were 100% the same species. Learn something first before showing your ignorance.
cormac
I don’t have to discuss it
Some people have more than 1-3% Neanderthal dna
I remember when some US politician had 1-3% American Indian dna a few years ago
Anyway, futile argument, have fun
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05-29-2026, 04:54 PM
This post was last modified: 05-29-2026, 05:08 PM by Creaky. 
(05-29-2026, 10:37 AM)Grim Reaper 6 Wrote: They are not passing their DNA Generationally, they are passing their DNA Biologically thus creating a genetic profile. Homo Neandertal and Homo Sapiens are part of the same extended family, however due to genetic differences they are distinctly Species within the designation Homo.
Here is a Peer Reviewed Journal that explains this better than I am able too.
Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and speciation complexity in palaeoanthropology: https://academic.oup.com/evolinnean/arti...ogin=false
Argue with the scientific community, I don’t care.
As far as I am concerned they may have been a distinct race, not species
Academia are arguing the issue, and you know better?
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(05-29-2026, 04:54 PM)Creaky Wrote: Argue with the scientific community, I don’t care.
As far as I am concerned they may have been a distinct race, not species
Academia are arguing the issue, and you know better?
I am not arguing with anyone, you win that prize...
I am agreeing with Academia, unlike you my friend
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(05-29-2026, 07:43 PM)Grim Reaper 6 Wrote: I am agreeing with Academia, unlike you my friend
Younare not agreeing with academia
you are denying academia
You are telling me you know better than -
https://anthropology.washu.edu/people/erik-trinkaus
Trinkaus called Neanderthal human, I believe him over any of your statements, any faith you put in your religion
The most recognised and respected academic, argue with his academia, he made the statement
Your arrogance is amazing
Seriously, like I care what you think, you’re a nobody arguing with me. I have no skin in this
If it turns out Neanderthal arnt human, i don’t care, it’s nothing to me.
I don’t look as stupid as Erik Trinkaus, the most respected Neanderthal academic recognised on Earth
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