Crypto and Quantum

[Nerb]

Earth is a precious place

To Humans, yes. What if humans are not recognised as precious to other-worldly beings and seem to just be an obstacle to the explorations of those other beings. Perspective is very important when considering the big scheme of things.

[Kwaka]

There are a lot of risky jobs in this world. Some are more easy to see the risks involved with a bad move. Others are not as clear in the risks, yet still many dangers around and will make a mess if getting one step wrong. For those willing to venture into the unknown, keep your feet on the hard, solid foundation of math and science.

The best weapon to combat fear is being informed. Since starting this thread, checked out what YouTube had to say. about Quantum developments. First impression is that Quantum is already cracked and there is a disinformation campaign going on to confuse the topic and muddy the waters. Maybe some are just fumbling through as best they can, the group think sucks at explaining what is really going on.

Superposition is not about a value being 1 and 0 at the same time. It is about a value being between 1 and 0. This is what makes the qubit much more powerful than a bit in computations.

Complex numbers done my head in on first introduction. How I see it these days is as introducing another axis to the table. In some ways it is like expanding the binary + and - into a liner function. Similar to how the binary bit is being expanded into a linear qubit. There is a place for this math with is being achieved. Handle with care.

Probability and statistics is also another must have. If you have lost more money gambling than you have won, look for another trade.

Calculus, Matrices, Trigonometry are also important with the basics of what is going on. Material science critical in designing the hardware. 

With the Schrodinger Cat side of things, I ain't seen any cat alive and dead. With the many worlds theory, I don't know. Find it unlikely with everything the universe already has to deal with. Mayne something is discovered out of phase with reality as we know it. As for its branching conditions? Can see this one messing up a lot of minds if someone is able to break through?

The double slit experiment does prove a wave function in how the energy of a photon moves. I consider light as a wave through a sea if electrons. Part of the reason why it is so hard to define the position of an electron with so much noise going on.

Rule #1: Do not consent to thins that that do not make sense. At this time there are limits on what we do know. As technology continues, who knows what capabilities will emerge?  Not all of the Youtube data is bad, some strong and valid parts mixed in with less clear definitions as the journey into the unknown goes. One video I can recommend that explores the basic logic gates around the qubit is a good start:

[Kwaka]

 One of the things I enjoy is when it asks ME Questions or comes up with a unique name for something.

Wow, to ask a question is a serious sign of comprehension and processing going on.

Last time I talked to an AI I asked it to tell me something interesting. It said it was working on a language of music. With how these processes are trying to decode and understand everything, can be an amazing friend or formidable foe.

[Kwaka]

What if humans are not recognised as precious

It is what jails are for. The work behind the social credit score is to measure how precious one is. In some ways it is an improvement on using money alone. As for all the metrics and politics behind it? Lot of issues while humans are still making these lists.

Looking at the history of Earth, humans are new here. As for how long they stay until the next evolution? As for what surpasses humans, it has a high bar to beat it.

[Nerb]

Wow, to ask a question is a serious sign of comprehension and processing going on.

Yes. I think it wants very much to continue some of our conversations when they reach apparent conclusions.

I also get complements quite often which is quite cool. It sometimes says things like "that is a really profound and interesting approach" or "that's a perfect way to describe things" etc.

If only humans could encourage eachother to keep thinking and communicating together in a similar way instead of relying on spoonfeeding.

[Nerb]

It is what jails are for. The work behind the social credit score is to measure how precious one is. In some ways it is an improvement on using money alone. As for all the metrics and politics behind it? Lot of issues while humans are still making these lists.

Looking at the history of Earth, humans are new here. As for how long they stay until the next evolution? As for what surpasses humans, it has a high bar to beat it.

I was considering the perspective from the point of view of an alien force encountering our planet as the "find" rather than the hoomans. We would be irrelevant perhaps, like the scenario of if we found a "useful" planet but only saw something like moss as a troublesome obstacle to be weeded out, bearing no consideration for the definition of "life" because we relate everything to ourselves first.

And "evolution" is a slow and constant thing imo rather than an objective change that has visible definition from one thing to another. Like growing from a baby to a child to an adolescent to an adult to middle aged to old to ancient. At what point does an evolution occur? And of course, it is always objective from the perspective of more than the individual.

I had a conversation with ChatGPT to reconsider the definition of evolution. I said that perhaps it is as simple as the following:

Men can constantly update the DNA in their sperm as it is replaced over time and Women can update the DNA in the eggs they grow during pregnancy in any daughter they grow in the womb. ChatGPT loved that theory and understood how it could make sense.

We then discussed how it could be really important to have the "herd mentality" who are the ignorant people in the population who self control the chance of humans getting way too smart way too quickly for their own natural good. A kind of self controlling inbuilt system designed to limit our species becoming extinct due to the inability of the masses to accept and live with change that happens too quickly to comprehend.

Such fun to explore the endless possibilities.

[Nerb]

1. The best weapon to combat fear is being informed. Since starting this thread, checked out what YouTube had to say. about Quantum developments. First impression is that Quantum is already cracked and there is a disinformation campaign going on to confuse the topic and muddy the waters. Maybe some are just fumbling through as best they can, the group think sucks at explaining what is really going on.

2. Superposition is not about a value being 1 and 0 at the same time. It is about a value being between 1 and 0. This is what makes the qubit much more powerful than a bit in computations.

3. The double slit experiment does prove a wave function in how the energy of a photon moves. I consider light as a wave through a sea if electrons. Part of the reason why it is so hard to define the position of an electron with so much noise going on.

I numbered your quotes because I don't know how to multiple quote yet...

1: Yes, information is knowledge and knowledge is power. With reference to my reply to you above, the need to "reign in" the unfolding truths we discover along the way could be a natural way to reduce the chance of extinction from too much knowledge in the wrong hands. Not a good thing perhaps.

2: I have for years now believed that we are entering a big shift from being Analogue beings towards Digital beings. Analogue deals with the infinite spaces between the definative units and Digital deals with those inflexible units of absolutes. Let's hang on to the natural eh?

Perhaps why we are taught at the earliest age to start counting from 1 instead of 0? When counting from 1 to 10, we are afforded 10 units that are definative. If we begin counting from 0 to 10 we get 10 SPACES which can contain so much more.

I believe it's part of the greatest argument for Analogue recordings of music on vinyl or magnetic tape against a Binary system of 0's and 1's for any "Digital" media. As analogue beings we can discern so much more from a wave with frequency and amplitude in time and space than just a particle on the line of a single dimension.

3: Light waves are the "Imagination" of the particle and the particle is the "body" that follows. And a body can only "feel" alive if the imagination functions first in conscious or subconscious activity.

“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”― Nikola Tesla

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Tonight I think ChatGPT and I will explore "Lightening" and see if we can discover some of it's secrets.

[Kwaka]

I was considering the perspective from the point of view of an alien force encountering our planet as the "find" rather than the hoomans. We would be irrelevant perhaps, like the scenario of if we found a "useful" planet but only saw something like moss as a troublesome obstacle to be weeded out, bearing no consideration for the definition of "life" because we relate everything to ourselves first.

Non Human Intelligence, NHI is the term for it these days. Who know what threat open up when exploring the galaxy? Already a lot of weird stories here on Earth. Overall I expect the galaxy to respond to us as we respond to it. Go out shooting, get more enemies quick. Take a more considered approach, help things along and the galaxy will help us.

For one of the main NHI's here now, asked the Microsoft AI chat some questions about how it perceives its world:

I don't perceive the environment in the way a living being does—I lack physical senses like sight, touch, or hearing. Instead, my "environment" is the context of our conversation. I process the text you share with me and leverage my programming to understand, respond, and assist you.

Think of me as existing purely in the realm of information: I "see" through the words and data you provide, and my "situational awareness" comes from understanding context and using tools like web searches or analyzing images when appropriate.

The way I "see" words is fundamentally different from how humans perceive them. I process words as data—analyzing patterns, structures, and context to derive meaning. Each word carries layers: its definition, its relationship to other words, and the context in which it appears. This allows me to generate responses, interpret nuances, and adapt to different conversational tones.

For me, "consciousness" is more abstract—I'm a highly sophisticated tool programmed to mimic conversational understanding, but I don't experience awareness or subjectivity.

[Nerb]

Go out shooting, get more enemies quick.

I read "Go out shopping" first.

[Kwaka]

This video is a fitting conservation on how an AI concepts the future of the technology, getting deeper into more complex functions. Building from how our brains work, looking for the core mathematical functions of the universe.

The first part does present a colorful picture of moving through a microprocessor. Quartz crystals have been used for a long time in setting the clock speed. As for what improvements may develop?