The lack of vaccines for the Amish

[Sky727]

Oh no they do not seem to have all the afflictions we in a modern vaccinated society seem to think is normal.
https://rumble.com/v6vk5yl-the-governmen...c-.htmlThe Government Has Thoroughly Studied the Amish So Why Are There No Public Reports?

Simple reason as the stats on the Amish will not support the AMA and Farma narrative when it comes to health.

[UltraBudgie]

ai is getting better at debunking this.  someone must have spent a lot of time to get it right.

While it’s true that the Old Order Amish often show lower rates of certain chronic and autoimmune illnesses than the general U.S. population, the reasons are far more complex than “no vaccines = better health” and there’s actually quite a bit of published research—much of it in the open medical literature. Here are some key points to keep in mind:

1. Lifestyle, Diet, and Environment
   • Diet: Traditional Amish diets tend to be whole-food-based, with home-made breads, dairy, garden vegetables and limited processed foods.
   • Physical activity: Farming, carpentry and other manual trades mean sustained daily exercise.
   • Environment: Many Amish homes have lower exposure to urban air pollution, fast food, excessive screen time, sedentary office work, etc.
   
2. Genetic and Population Factors
   • Founder effect and endogamy: A relatively small initial population and intermarriage within the group mean certain genetic traits—both protective and predisposing—are more common or rare in Amish communities.
   • Selective migration: Individuals with debilitating inherited conditions may be less likely to join or remain in a farming-intensive lifestyle.
   
3. Vaccination Rates and Infectious Disease
   • Vaccine uptake: Studies show Amish vaccination rates vary by community and tend to be lower than national averages—but not zero.
   • Outbreaks do occur: Measles, rubella and pertussis outbreaks have been documented in some Amish settlements precisely because lower vaccination creates vulnerable pockets.
   • Risk trade-off: The decrease in some chronic disorders doesn’t outweigh the risk of severe, sometimes fatal, vaccine-preventable illness.
   
4. Public Reports and Research Accessibility
   • IRB and community consent: To study any close-knit religious group, researchers need community approval and strict privacy controls, so large “public” reports can be slower or more limited in detail.
   • Published studies: A Google Scholar or PubMed search for “Amish health epidemiology” will turn up dozens of peer-reviewed papers—from nutritional profiles to incidence of type 2 diabetes, multiple sclerosis, asthma, and certain cancers.
   • Government data: The CDC, NIH and state health departments have funded and published much of this work; it isn’t kept secret, just scattered across specialty journals.
   
5. The Broader Picture
   • Correlation ≠ causation: Lower rates of arthritis or type 1 diabetes, for example, correlate with Amish lifestyles—but that doesn’t prove that “no vaccines” is the cause.
   • Holistic health factors: Sleep patterns, stress levels, sense of community, work-life integration and spiritual practices all play significant roles in overall wellbeing.
   • Modern medicine’s benefits: Vaccines, antibiotics, imaging technology and emergency care have all saved millions of lives and dramatically reduced infant and maternal mortality over the last century.
   

Bottom line: The Amish experience can teach us a lot about diet, exercise, community cohesion and genetic factors—but it does not provide evidence that avoiding vaccination or modern medicine is a net benefit. In public health we look at the totality of evidence, and across hundreds of millions of people, vaccines remain one of the most cost-effective, well-studied interventions ever devised.

they forgot to mention that god loves the amish, duh, so less sickies for them

[chivo]

ai is getting better at debunking this.  someone must have spent a lot of time to get it right.

While it’s true that the Old Order Amish often show lower rates of certain chronic and autoimmune illnesses than the general U.S. population, the reasons are far more complex than “no vaccines = better health” and there’s actually quite a bit of published research—much of it in the open medical literature. Here are some key points to keep in mind:

1. Lifestyle, Diet, and Environment
   • Diet: Traditional Amish diets tend to be whole-food-based, with home-made breads, dairy, garden vegetables and limited processed foods.
   • Physical activity: Farming, carpentry and other manual trades mean sustained daily exercise.
   • Environment: Many Amish homes have lower exposure to urban air pollution, fast food, excessive screen time, sedentary office work, etc.
   
2. Genetic and Population Factors
   • Founder effect and endogamy: A relatively small initial population and intermarriage within the group mean certain genetic traits—both protective and predisposing—are more common or rare in Amish communities.
   • Selective migration: Individuals with debilitating inherited conditions may be less likely to join or remain in a farming-intensive lifestyle.
   
3. Vaccination Rates and Infectious Disease
   • Vaccine uptake: Studies show Amish vaccination rates vary by community and tend to be lower than national averages—but not zero.
   • Outbreaks do occur: Measles, rubella and pertussis outbreaks have been documented in some Amish settlements precisely because lower vaccination creates vulnerable pockets.
   • Risk trade-off: The decrease in some chronic disorders doesn’t outweigh the risk of severe, sometimes fatal, vaccine-preventable illness.
   
4. Public Reports and Research Accessibility
   • IRB and community consent: To study any close-knit religious group, researchers need community approval and strict privacy controls, so large “public” reports can be slower or more limited in detail.
   • Published studies: A Google Scholar or PubMed search for “Amish health epidemiology” will turn up dozens of peer-reviewed papers—from nutritional profiles to incidence of type 2 diabetes, multiple sclerosis, asthma, and certain cancers.
   • Government data: The CDC, NIH and state health departments have funded and published much of this work; it isn’t kept secret, just scattered across specialty journals.
   
5. The Broader Picture
   • Correlation ≠ causation: Lower rates of arthritis or type 1 diabetes, for example, correlate with Amish lifestyles—but that doesn’t prove that “no vaccines” is the cause.
   • Holistic health factors: Sleep patterns, stress levels, sense of community, work-life integration and spiritual practices all play significant roles in overall wellbeing.
   • Modern medicine’s benefits: Vaccines, antibiotics, imaging technology and emergency care have all saved millions of lives and dramatically reduced infant and maternal mortality over the last century.
   

Bottom line: The Amish experience can teach us a lot about diet, exercise, community cohesion and genetic factors—but it does not provide evidence that avoiding vaccination or modern medicine is a net benefit. In public health we look at the totality of evidence, and across hundreds of millions of people, vaccines remain one of the most cost-effective, well-studied interventions ever devised.

they forgot to mention that god loves the amish, duh, so less sickies for them

"• Risk trade-off: The decrease in some chronic disorders doesn’t outweigh the risk of severe, sometimes fatal, vaccine-preventable illness."

Like the COVID VAX. Safe and effective you see???

[PorkChop96]

"• Risk trade-off: The decrease in some chronic disorders doesn’t outweigh the risk of severe, sometimes fatal, vaccine-preventable illness."

Like the COVID VAX. Safe and effective you see???

Are you implying that COVID is a "vaccine-preventable illness" ?