Corona Virus Update 8

[sahgwa]

I will just jump in here right quick and remind people we are on a conspiracy forum.  People like me don't trust the numbers of anything the government puts out.  Especially about COVID.  using the gov figures for any position is pointless when they lie out their teeth about everything. You honestly don't trust them ? 
~'crazy conspiracy theorist' 

Can't believe I have to ask this on a forum of this kind.

[quintessentone]

I will just jump in here right quick and remind people we are on a conspiracy forum.  People like me don't trust the numbers of anything the government puts out.  Especially about COVID.  using the gov figures for any position is pointless when they lie out their teeth about everything. You honestly don't trust them ? 
~'crazy conspiracy theorist' 

Can't believe I have to ask this on a forum of this kind.

The COVID19 amnesia goes both ways here...remember the need for makeshift morgues (refrigerated truck/trailers) outside of hospitals?

[SomeStupidName]

I never said Trump was responsible for the mandated vax, I said Trump declared a national emergency and recommended everyone get the vax. You are spinning this out of context of what I said previously, or what I was trying to point out.

So the 1,500 unvaccinated deaths per day is not enough to sway you to believe the vax should have been mandated?

My apologies, I thought you were saying Trump enacted the mandates and I know he did not.  The 1500 deaths a day as I understand it 8-9k people in the US die everyday are you saying on top of that or were they counting other deaths as covid deaths?

[SomeStupidName]

The COVID19 amnesia goes both ways here...remember the need for makeshift morgues (refrigerated truck/trailers) outside of hospitals?

I remember the fake lines at emergency services the media tried to show us only to find out they staged it, I remember empty hospital ships and stand up hospitals being vacant and torn back down. I remember average citizens having to bust into a warehouse in NY to show that their governor was hording ventilators and not releasing them to the hospitals and nursing homes he locked infected people in next to most vulnerable people who were at risk of dieing of covid. I never saw a makeshift morgues but I don't live in a large city. I remember there only being 2 other people in the ER when I had covid and the parking lot was empty. Do you remember all the board nurses making music videos?

[quintessentone]

My apologies, I thought you were saying Trump enacted the mandates and I know he did not.  The 1500 deaths a day as I understand it 8-9k people in the US die everyday are you saying on top of that or were they counting other deaths as covid deaths?

The other source was specifically from Covid19 deaths.

Here's an independent COVID19 cases of death tracker: the USA has a very big circle, just saying...not to mention during Trump's 2nd term, more people are not getting the vax...so let's track the death rate trajectory of this mutating virus.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19...9-tracker/

More:
 "Deaths

While mortality rates have declined due to widespread vaccination and improved treatments, COVID-19 remains a leading cause of death:

• Fatalities: An estimated 50,000 to 100,000 deaths are expected in 2025, with the highest rates among older adults and immunocompromised individuals.
  
• Regional Disparities: States with lower vaccination rates may experience disproportionately higher death tolls."
  

https://assure-test.com/covid-19-burden-...ns-deaths/

"Combating Misinformation

False claims about COVID-19 continue to undermine public health efforts. Strategies to rebuild trust include:

• Leveraging trusted community leaders.
  
• Disseminating clear, evidence-based information.
  
• Countering myths through targeted campaigns."
  

Keep safe out there.

"What COVID-19 variant are we on?
 Currently, the dominant variant nationwide is LP.8.1, with 73% of cases, followed by XFC, with 10% of cases, and XEC, with 4% of cases. "The original omicron variant is gone now," says Dr. Rupp. "Currently subvariants of omicron are circulating, including MC.10.1, LB.1.3.1, and LF.7.""

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/what-c...ing-around

[Thoughtful3]

The other source was specifically from Covid19 deaths.

Here's an independent COVID19 cases of death tracker: the USA has a very big circle, just saying...not to mention during Trump's 2nd term, more people are not getting the vax...so let's track the death rate trajectory of this mutating virus.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19...9-tracker/

More:
 "Deaths

While mortality rates have declined due to widespread vaccination and improved treatments, COVID-19 remains a leading cause of death:

• Fatalities: An estimated 50,000 to 100,000 deaths are expected in 2025, with the highest rates among older adults and immunocompromised individuals.
  
• Regional Disparities: States with lower vaccination rates may experience disproportionately higher death tolls."
  

https://assure-test.com/covid-19-burden-...ns-deaths/

"Combating Misinformation

False claims about COVID-19 continue to undermine public health efforts. Strategies to rebuild trust include:

• Leveraging trusted community leaders.
  
• Disseminating clear, evidence-based information.
  
• Countering myths through targeted campaigns."
  

Keep safe out there.

"What COVID-19 variant are we on?
 Currently, the dominant variant nationwide is LP.8.1, with 73% of cases, followed by XFC, with 10% of cases, and XEC, with 4% of cases. "The original omicron variant is gone now," says Dr. Rupp. "Currently subvariants of omicron are circulating, including MC.10.1, LB.1.3.1, and LF.7.""

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/what-c...ing-around

I just want to let you know that Deborah Birx in her book "Silent Invasion" noted that there were two sets of data about Covid cases and deaths. They were running in parallel. President Trump was being given one set that she was not privy to. A good question would be what were the differences in the data being reported. I will try and find the section for you.

Also I have a friend at Abbott, a company that manufactured Covid test kits, who told me some very interesting things.
There were some employees who were against the jabs, so the company offered $1000 bonus if they would take it.
There were some serious hold outs and they were given a final deadline and told they would be fired.
After they finally took it Abbott refused to give them the $1000.

The irony here.
The employees were given Covid test kits that they were to use to prove that they were not infected. Would you believe that they were expired kits?  No doubt Abbott got to write this off as an employee benefit.

Also senior management were advised in a confidential meeting that the test kits at best were only 25% effective.

[Thoughtful3]

I remember the fake lines at emergency services the media tried to show us only to find out they staged it, I remember empty hospital ships and stand up hospitals being vacant and torn back down. I remember average citizens having to bust into a warehouse in NY to show that their governor was hording ventilators and not releasing them to the hospitals and nursing homes he locked infected people in next to most vulnerable people who were at risk of dieing of covid. I never saw a makeshift morgues but I don't live in a large city. I remember there only being 2 other people in the ER when I had covid and the parking lot was empty. Do you remember all the board nurses making music videos?

Resident Lurker was very seriously ill starting in January 2020. I had to take him to one hospital then and it was almost empty in the ER department. There were masks available and my suspicion was aroused when the security guard and the Drs. were not wearing the masks. They only slapped them on when they came into the room.

On another incident I had to take him to another hospital for surgery. The place was 100% empty. No cars even in the parking lot. I wasn't permitted in, and was sent a text to pick him up after the surgery was over.

You won't believe this- before releasing him they had me come in to pick up and pay for his medication.
I guess my money was more important.
The place was empty, empty, empty.

Another few times to urgent care- empty. I found it very odd that I was barred from all Dr. visits as well.
During those visits the Dr. would try to foist on him the Covid jab, while he was ill with Covid.
This made zero sense.

Would anyone give someone a flu shot if they were suffering from the flu?

As he was recovering the Dr talked him into taking a pneumonia shot- and wouldn't you know he then came down with pneumonia since he was already in a weakened state.

These Drs. actions during the plandemic have seriously harmed their profession. I will never trust them again.

I managed to have a few quiet words with the wife of the Head of a major hospital while shoe shopping at Nordstroms.
I told her how I had managed to get RL a stem cell treatment that had him better within 2 weeks. She said she would tell her husband. No doubt he dismissed it because you know- no money in healing.

BTW Kennedy went offshore to get a stem cell treatment for his throat. I noticed he sounded better. He said that it worked and that no American should have to go offshore to seek medical treatment.

[Thoughtful3]

Treating people as lab rats would imply the government knew what they were doing in using the populace as such. If so, back then it was Trump's call for everyone to get the jab. Take it up with him as to that conspiracy theory of yours.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56424614

I have mulled this over as well. Can you imagine what would have happened if President Trump had come out and stated that he was against the mRNA jabs?

The enemedia were already in full force against him. The hue and cry would have driven more people to take it.

The big. big monster in the room is Billy the Gates. He established CEPI in 2017 and had GAVI all set up ready to distribute the jabs. The contracts were already established prior to the event and the Warp Speed task force used Gavi for distribution.

The Gates Foundation has heavily funded vaccine development and scientists and researchers world wide would have attacked Trump with claims that he was anti science. Basically Billy has all of them hostage and addicted to the grant money.

Their vocal attack may very well have resulted in many more people taking the jabs if Trump was against them. It was a very fine line to walk. With how he responded we could also have had people feel that if he was for them than they would be against them. 5th Generation warfare at its finest.

Then add on that the Gates Foundation also funded research papers, and news organizations and has bought off government officials.
So not only did he have to contend with the reactions of these groups, he also had to contend with the universities, who get substantial funding from the Foundation.

In other words he would have had the full force of the media, academics, any government officials on the take all coming out in a firestorm attack. I believe many more people would have taken the jabs.

Now add this- In the book "the Vaccine" by Joe Miller starring Ugur Sahin [CEO of BioNTech] and Ozlem Tureci,
Page 23, 25, 26 reveals that Ugur was approached by the Gates Foundation to do a presentation at the Grand Challenges in Germany October 2018. He was surprised because he was using mRNA for cancer therapies and was not involved with infectious diseases. At this point he had treated roughly 400 patients.

He did the presentation, and had the opportunity to rub shoulders with Tedros [WHO Director] and surprisingly he found himself in a dusty run down hotel meeting with Billy. 
"Was there potential, he wondered aloud, to develop mRNA based drugs, in record speed, during a pandemic? Ugur might want to consider preparing for a plug-and-play solution for that moment, Gates said, as a matter of urgency."

Now The "Trust the Science" crowd effectively took over the response to the plandemic, over riding Trump, because this was now a military operation with the "Face of Science."

Also he is not a scientist and one would expect that he would have and should have been able to turn to experienced people like snake in the grass Fauci to provide good advice- as in this is not the time to take an experimental gene therapy and let's see what happens.

We also need to remember that Billy made an investment in BioNTech through his foundation, then cashed out at the high, making his best investment as he claimed at WEF- and never had to pay any tax.

[Thoughtful3]

Also I wanted to add that President Trump contacted the head of the various Big Pharma companies to a meeting on on March 2, 2020 at the White House. Albert Bourla [CEO Pfizer] was in Europe and could not attend so he sent his Chief of Research and Development Mikael Dolston in his place.

Now we know they plant articles in advance-
"A June 2018 paper from Vaccines Europe cities vaccination as one of the most cost-effective  public health interventions ever implemented." Then we have Billy's funded WHO touting that 2 to 3 million deaths are avoided because of vaccines. Not that Billy has any stake in vaccines, right? Where do they come up with  proof of this?

"On that call, Mikael and I agreed that this virus was different and we warmed to the idea of pursuing a vaccine first."
With all of these Big Pharma executives in attendance along with Fauci, Pence, Alex Azar the discussion centered around therapeutics. Imagine that.

Dolston then changed the direction of the discussions to vaccines. 
Something to consider "Most of the discussion was about treatments, not prevention. Tony Fauci seemed to be getting excited  when I said we will go for a vaccine as well."

Page 23 "Mikael knew from previous discussions that speed of development and the ability to boost frequently were very high priorities for me."
"I also knew that a virus with these characteristics would mutate sooner than later. It was important that we boost as often as needed without the fear of losing potency. "
This is from the book "Moonshot" by Albert Bourla.

So they knew even before they developed the jabs that they would not be able to tackle the inevitable mutations. 

President Trump is not a scientist and would not know about this. I imagine it must have been mind boggling , like a slow motion horror film, watching the roll out of the plan and not being able to communicate with the public. No matter what he said it was going to be twisted.

Another thing to consider. Pfizer had narrowed down two candidates b1 and b2 Covid mRNA jabs.

Page 51 & 52
Pfizer had narrowed down to 2 vaccine candidates b1 & b2. They had 80% data on b1 and not that much on b2.
b1- "This candidate had the most data and appeared to be an excellent choice. 'b2 was more difficult to produce." "In a critical meeting on July 24, 2020, arguments in favor and against each of the two candidates were summarized for the last time by the study team."
Bourla made the final decision- "I had to make the final call. Let's go with the riskier decision."
"Let's go with b2 and lets hope we are right."

Who in their right mind would make this decision? How was President Trump to know that not only were they doing this but the public was not given the same jab as the clinical trial participants?

Also the task force had some very strange things going on. I have another book to review- "Plague Upon Our House" by Scott Atlas- the only infiltrator into the task force. The task force was commandeered by Deborah Birx who had been pushed up to be the head by the Security Council. I would have expected someone from HHS but this was now a biodefense response.

President Trump was not receiving information directly from the task force; instead it was curated by Jared Kushner.


Meanwhile Billy the Gates took over the global response to the plandemic. Now from Billy's book "How to prevent the Next Pandemic" he outlines his dream of a GERM Team that can be deployed anywhere in the world to tackle plandemics and conduct drills. It is dystopian, with dreams of having vaccines distributed throughout the school ventilation systems and vaccine sniffing booths for the public. If he has his way we will be jabbed one way or another, and frequently.

[Thoughtful3]

One more point-

Along with lots and lots of books authored by the players in this plandemic that I have accumulated and read, I also kept original articles published in newspapers. Just in case we have some revisions to history take place. Also I have a very, very good memory.

Having cross referenced these books, and compared their stories it is very clear that there was a plan- and because Billy is involved it all centers around key numbers. I imagine he never expected that someone would catch on but then again I play evil level sudoku.

I imagine that President Trump and his team knew the playbook; it would be very obvious. One would only have to track the odd dollar amount of grants given out by the Gates Foundation. The teams were set up by key numbers.
They. are. crazy. com.