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Control the Narrative. Or Else. Says Shlomo Kramer
#1
So I haven’t made a thread on here. I was lackluster on ATS in this regard too. However.

Apologies if this exact topic has been covered.

So recently an Israeli businessman went on US news to say that social media platforms must be reigned in with regards to Free Speech. All of them. And yeah while social media isn’t explicitly the yardstick for “fire in a movie theater”, this is the global soapbox. I guess some are more truly equal than others. He seems to think the “lies” some Americans believe about what’s happening in Gaza are “lies” that need to be subverted, er “controlled”. The chutzpah on this dude…

He seems to take issue with the fact (along with half his countrymen) that the Gaza War isn’t being reported, as um, he would like. Maybe it’s why Bibi has taken a shining to TikTok, YT, and now recently Meta in light of the narrative proving unfavorable. I guess that’s why Israel let in all those international journalists and the IDF hasn’t killed scores of journalists covering the war.

But yeah it’s a hill I’ll die on. Not social media mind you. But ANY foreigner that thinks they can tell Americans what to think and say. We are already circling the drain on critical thinking and statistal analysis as it pertains to oneself. Laughable to some of you who know this and have for awhile. Yet, something about an “informed citizenry”.

While this is my first stab at a thread, it harkens to so many others here, and fundamentally what we are all doing here in some form or another. To find out more about the truth.

To Deny Ignorance. Here’s to the 1A. I hope this thread works, lol

ETA: if the link won’t work, the article is from Futurism “Tech Billionaire Says It’s Time for the Government to Suspend Freedom of Speech”

https://futurism.com/future-society/tech...mer-speech
#2
I think Senator Mike Lee made the best rebuttal to this proposal:

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#3
Here is how I see it. If any country out there has an issue with anything on the internet. It is on them to block traffic to that site on their equipment, that's why they bought all those routers and firewalls.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
#4
Maybe there should be a disclaimer on where and who is making any funded claims such as "This message is brought to you and funded by the CCP/PLA/Communist News Network (CNN) and or Euro news. " 

Much of the Democratic drivel we hear is a funded Psyop by our ever present communist with many seemingly innocent sounding names who want to destroy capitalism and America in particular; the leader of the free world etc etc.


#5
(01-13-2026, 03:40 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: Here is how I see it. If any country out there has an issue with anything on the internet. It is on them to block traffic to that site on their equipment, that's why they bought all those routers and firewalls.



I see Iran and NK have entered the chat.
And yeah. I could give a flying fuck if the Ayatollah or Dear leader said this too.

But yeah. I see your point.

However. And this is important: for people that Will SA prisoners, bomb hospitals, shoot journalists, and invade neighboring countries just to displace a civilian population and steal their land, to still see themselves as morally superior, and that everyone else should too for that matter, is very telling.

Because the world doesn’t like kids being blowed up. Nor used as human shields.

But I guess that kinda thinking is verboten.

So, scrap Free Speech, buy up the platforms, clamp down the narrative and slap some credit scores on people like me that calls ‘em as I sees ‘em.
#6
(01-12-2026, 11:35 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote:  But ANY foreigner that thinks they can tell Americans what to think and say. 

Yep.   It's arrogant and obnoxious.
They aren't US citizens.   F them.
#7
(01-13-2026, 05:50 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Yep.   It's arrogant and obnoxious.
They aren't US citizens.   F them.



To be fair.

Any American that says the same I would spit on.

1A for life.

For if we can’t exchange unpleasant ideas and converse of uncomfortable issues without violence, the Free World as we know it is gone. In some ways it is already.
#8
(01-13-2026, 05:55 AM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Any American that says the same I would spit on.

Sure.   But it's worse coming from a foreigner.
America isn't their country.  It's none of their business.
Take care of their own country.
#9
(01-13-2026, 04:40 AM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: However. And this is important: for people that Will SA prisoners, bomb hospitals, shoot journalists, and invade neighboring countries just to displace a civilian population and steal their land, to still see themselves as morally superior, and that everyone else should too for that matter, is very telling.

Most Journalists today are bunch a Trotsky sniffing Marxist looking to cause as much trouble for the west as they can possibly inflict, so in my opinion if they got hit in an Israeli raid they probably shouldn't have been where they were. No one wants to see babies die but that what happens during war, every war not just that war but in this war it was being pushed to forefront by scumbag journalist in an effort to sway public opinion. The Palestinians elected hamas which is a terrorist organization and they give zero fucts about any kids to high positions in their government so they are now guilty by association and have decided they don't care about their children either. They also have no real interest in peacefully coexisting they hate the jews and they want their land. These asshole thought they could glide in like they were playing warzone and then live stream themselves as they raped women and burned babies while their mothers watched. I would have been okay with Israel wiping every single one of them out of existence for what they did.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
#10
(01-13-2026, 08:16 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: Most Journalists today are bunch a Trotsky sniffing Marxist looking to cause as much trouble for the west as they can possibly inflict, so in my opinion if they got hit in an Israeli raid they probably shouldn't have been where they were. No one wants to see babies die but that what happens during war, every war not just that war but in this war it was being pushed to forefront by scumbag journalist in an effort to sway public opinion. The Palestinians elected hamas which is a terrorist organization and they give zero fucts about any kids to high positions in their government so they are now guilty by association and have decided they don't care about their children either. They also have no real interest in peacefully coexisting they hate the jews and they want their land. These asshole thought they could glide in like they were playing warzone and then live stream themselves as they raped women and burned babies while their mothers watched. I would have been okay with Israel wiping every single one of them out of existence for what they did.

So what you're saying is, there's good people on both sides?

Lol