(04-26-2024, 05:49 PM)guyfriday Wrote: Odd how the article stresses the George Soros angle, and ignores the facts that Alex Soros is now calling the shots on this.Yeah, a couple of things Im not a huge believer to the WEF theories, wealthy powerful people are going to hang out with other wealthy powerful people. It's the nature of the beast.
also not mention is how when attacked in the media Soros (both George and Alex) have been known to hide behind their Jewish Heritage. Now why would a Jewish born family be pushing this anti-Jewish agenda, unless?
These Soros fronts have been established for a long time, they are their own entities now with thier own donors and sponsorships. Pretty sure a Soros doesn't write checks for expenses per se, but instead supports some other mega-donor to the cause. As for thier heritage, money power and control obviously can corrupt people enough to abandon thier roots
Secondly, even if George has turned over the reigns publically, pretty sure anything he wanted to do would have dutifully been done by his son. Hell it probably was contingent on him turning control over, Alex must do A,B,C
(04-26-2024, 07:32 PM)Byrd Wrote: Thank you.Thanks for the thoughtful discussion
A more reasoned answer. You might not remember that I'm a military brat and my dad was there in the middle of the fighting -- he did two tours and was embedded with the Vietnamese as an intelligence agent. My former boss was also there as infantry. Neither was spat upon and they did wear their uniforms while traveling.
I do remember the protests (I disagreed at that time with the protesters.)
However, most of today's protests are against Israel for their over-the-top actions. I can see launching attacks against Hamas (and today's weapons are sophisticated enough that surgical strikes, like the one against Bin Ladin and many other foes, can be done -- even when the target is inside a secured area and surrounded by civilians.)
However, that's not what's being done. Israel has the right to defend itself -- but killing aid workers and children don't come under that umbrella.
If you care to check closely (not the headlines but the news stories themselves or the organization) you will find that the protests have two main key points -- stopping the killing of civilians and the right of the Palestinians to have a free state with the borders that exist as of 1967: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Line...esolutions
Mostly it's about ending the killings, as I'm sure you've probably noticed in reading articles from multiple news outlets. Peaceful protests are a guaranteed right under the First Amendment (even if I disagree with what's being protested.) However, what we're seeing (at least in Texas) is an almost hysterical reaction to marches and protests that turns the whole thing violent. I think that's wrong, and it's the kind of inane reaction that's blown up before (Vietnam War protest, civil rights protests, etc.) Violent actions against protesters usually get an immediate backlash from those in the area, and that always turns violent.
Again, feel free to disagree or hammer a point with references. I'm up for that.
Thanks for your response. I remember the same things that you point out -- most of the campus protesters were for peace and not against the ones who served. And I remember communities welcoming service members home.
I agree that we're seeing the same kind of things today.
So what should Israel's response be to 10/7 the murder, raping, and hostage taking? Let's not forget they are still holding innocent civilians. You know like those 4 late teens and early 20s women, now why didn't they release them with the rest of the women?
We know the Palestinians copy whatever method is semi-effective and use it repeatedly. It's why we had a surge in hijackings in the 70s.
We had today in my hometown promises from the protestors hundreds of 10/7s if not thousands. The response had to be swift, violent and overwhelming, it's all the Middle East understands, hell there are likely to be copycat attempts for years, once Gaza is over.
Completely agree with a 2 state solution, HOWEVER negotiating it while hostages are being held and in the shadow of the 10/7 attacks is complete bullshit. One-half of the protesters are just protesting because they are anti-war the other half is anti-semitic and believes any means necessary. No 2 states, no peace till the elimination of the Hebrews. How do you negotiate with that?
Im not so naive to think once they get Palestine there will be peace, instead it will simmer and boil and it flare up differently with a renewed intensity.
We literally have the US Navy building a pier to supply food and medicines to Gaza under damn mortar fire. This brings us to Iran and Russia, they aren't going to stop pushing to war buttons either likely till negotiations start on Ukraine.
BTW WTF happened to never negotiate with terrorists?
For the peaceniks why not demonstrate against the war in Sudan, you know the one that has more death, destruction and displacement, without the racial bigotry and racism. Shouldn't the Sudanese have thier own peaceful and secure state? Because they do not. They live in abject poverty, are being attacked, threatened raped killed and mutilated because like Hamas they control by fear and violent coercion tactics.
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