(06-18-2024, 05:50 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Recognize Israel as a sovereign nation, release any living hostages, stop bombing and killing Jews and you'll get your peace.
Really. It's that simple.
Stop trying to genocide Jews and there will be peace.
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You forget it's Palestine that's under occupation and not Israel. Recognising Palestine as a sovereign Nation, stop killing Palestinians, stop the occupation, the illegal detentions, the kidnappings and imprisonment of tens of thousands of them, are all prerequisites for the end of hostilities and the road to peace. You could answer some of the points I made but you preferred to avoid them.
(06-17-2024, 01:40 PM)Blaine91555 Wrote: You are like a dog with a bone on that simple biological fact that I stated. It is a fact that Prefrontal Cortex keeps developing until around 25 years of age. It's why teens and young adults often make so many wrong decisions and engage in bad behavior and at time dangerous behavior. It's nothing new or controversial.
I'm not insulting anyone. I'm just pointing out that young adults of college age are not emotionally or cognitively prepared to make good decisions and are easily led by people with bad motives, like say antisemitic people.
It's also a fact that young people are targeted by the worst, most evil people because they know they can control them easily and lead then in wrong directions. Hitler knew it, Mao knew it and they used them.
What we are witnessing on campuses are young people groomed to hate Jews and to support terrorists. How else can you explain anyone siding with Hamas after Hamas attacked Israel in such a brutal fashion? Israel would be insane to not eliminate Hamas.
I'm not blind to the fact that there are innocents drug into this. Hamas has seen to that. Any civilian deaths are the direct result of actions taken by Hamas. They hide behind women and children, they set up operations at hospitals and schools and store weapons and hide their terrorist army underneath them. Hamas is definitive evil.
How anyone can side with Hamas is beyond reason. Why support a terrorist group who's goal is the total elimination of Jews and after that the elimination of Western Democracies like the United States?
Parents need to rise up and stop this indoctrination from happening in our countries universities. We need to take a hard look at all of our schools and figure out how hate has taken them over.
It's not quite that simple.
Another question is why exactly is it that neither Jordan nor Egypt want the people who call themselves Palestinians?
Yet another question is why does Iran support them in the same way they support all antisemitic peoples and terrorist groups. We know that the leaders of Iran want all Jews dead and gone.
It's most of the world currently engaging in 'bad behaviour' not just the students and young adults. I am sure if your country or part of it was occupied most of the same 'bad' young people would do the same and engage in the same 'bad' behaviours. You guys find it difficult to answer a simple question, which of the two is occupied? Israel or Palestine? It could help your understanding a lot of you can answer this question successfully.
(06-17-2024, 11:33 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: Gantz walked earlier this month from Netanyahu's war cabinet, and today Netanyahu dissolved the rest of the cabinet (probably so he wouldn't look so bad when the rest of them walked). Very few are happy with Netanyahu's leadership through all of this.
Israel could do themselves a great big favor by giving Netanyahu the giant boot. Gantz is the likely successor, and while not a perfect permanent solution, he'd at least be a step in the right direction. Netanyahu has vowed there will never be statehood for Palestinians, and he's rejected virtually every ceasefire proposal, so none of this is going anywhere while he's at the helm. The most recent one in Feb had Blinken in the middle of it (and he couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag). Blinken and Biden (and the Central non-Intelligence Agency spooks) need to stay out of it. If there's going to be a deal brokered, Qatar will be the ones to pull it off. It'd be pretty interesting (and comical) to see Qatar put a deal on the table where Netanyahu stepping down was one of the conditions! (Hint-hint, Al Thani...hope you're listening!)
This is what many want in Israel, a situation of continuous hostilities without any prospect of peace in the future but most importantly they don't want a free and sovereign Palestinian State.
Plenty of Israeli propaganda online, I am sure you can see it, but at this point has no effect because it's a matter of time until the inevitable happens and Palestine is recognised by the international community. So far hundreds of countries have recognised palestinian statehood with Norway, Spain, Ireland, the latest on the list.
Have you seen the levels of desperation by Israeli propagandists online who claim the UN is antisemitic, Norway and Spain are antisemitic, every organization and country they coundmens Israel and recognises Palestine is antisemitic! It won't prevent the inevitable and can't change the course of history.
