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Catholic Cartel - Bishops Making Billions off Illegals in USA
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The Catholic Church in the USA has made $3,000,000,000 in the past 15 years by engaging in human trafficking of illegal migrants to the United States.   Most of it is our tax money being funneled through the government to "Catholic Charities" for the supposed resettling of illegals across the United States.  This is being pushed by 'Pope Francis' who is anti-borders, anti-free-market and anti-America.  

J.D. Vance is right.  It's a billion dollar money making scheme that is disguised as 'love of neighbor' but in fact is hate towards the United States and is twisting scripture and church teaching to make it unrecognizable.

Stream.org How Bishops are Making Millions Trafficking in Human Misery
Quote:J.D. Vance outraged the insider networks of the D.C. Catholic subculture and got attacked by multiple bishops when he called out the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops for profiting massively from federal contracts via non-profits like Catholic Charities in the name of resettling immigrants. More than 200,000 immigrant children went missing in 2024, a scandal about which the bishops are silent. As The Stream has documented, the U.S. bishops collected some $3 billion from U.S. taxpayers for immigration programs in just 15 years.
 
Complicit Clergy, a watchdog organization of Catholic laymen, produced this powerful 17-minute video documenting how the bishops’ captive nonprofits collude with cartels in human trafficking across our border, in defiance of our laws — and justified all of it by twisting Jesus’s command to love our neighbors.

The video is available at the link.

Pope Francis' no-borders in the world nightmare is NOT what the Catholic church teaches.   His calling no-borders 'love of neighbor' is twisting the teaching.   It shows a lack of love for the people of the country being invaded by criminals.

NC Register - Catholic Vice President VD Vance and Ordo Amoris
Quote:Vice President JD Vance in a Thursday interview invoked the Catholic concept of “ordo amoris” — “rightly ordered love” — in the context of the ongoing societal debate over immigration policy, sparking a variety of reactions on social media. 
 
Speaking to Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Vance opined, spurred by Hannity, that “the far left” in the United States tend to have “more compassion” for people residing in the country illegally — including those who have committed crimes — than they do for American citizens. 
 
“[A]s an American leader, but also just as an American citizen, your compassion belongs first to your fellow citizens. It doesn’t mean you hate people from outside of your own borders,” Vance said Jan. 30.
 
“But there’s this old-school [concept] — and I think a very Christian concept, by the way — that you love your family, and then you love your neighbor, and then you love your community, and then you love your fellow citizens in your own country, and then after that you can focus and prioritize the rest of the world,” he said.

That's Ordo Amoris.

JD Vance hit the money making bishops up with saying that they were more interested in making money than in taking care of Americans in their own country.  He cited Ordo Amoris.  Also called Rightly Ordered Love.  St. Augustine gave Ordo Amoris as a definition for the concept of “virtue.”  And St. Thomas Aquanis declared Ordo Caritatis, also called the order of charity.  He said that we should love God, ourselves, and our neighbors in a hierarchical and interconnected manner. Aquanis cited Augustine to argue that while one should love all people equally, one ought to “chiefly” consider those who are more closely united by reason of place, time, or other circumstances.   Love the neighbor as youself ... and our first neighbors are our actual neighbors being AMERICAN CITIZENS.   

The bishops, while bringing in $3,000,000,000 in tax payer money for the Catholic church, are actually twisting Christian teaching and are not following what the Catholic saints say about taking care of those around you first.


 
Quote:Bishop Michael F. Burbidge of Arlington, Virginia has weighed in on the immigration debate, insisting that every country needs “well-regulated borders and just limits on immigration,” which in no way violate human dignity. “Even when immigration reform includes repatriation of those persons who have committed violent crimes, or who otherwise violate the terms of a right to remain, human dignity can be respected.” 
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This is very apropos and a reminder of the evil of the Vatican Bank.

Just last night we watched a Why Files that reminded us of the role of the Vatican Bank in facilitating the cancer that infected the USA after WW2, Nazism, through the rat-lines sponsored and paid for by the Vatican.

Not to mention, the role of the Vatican Bank in funding and money laundering for Operation Gladio and killing innocent civilians via bombs and shootings in the 50's through the 80s.....
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Well, I know our local VEHEMENTLY ANTI Trump diocese has done a lot. A lot of ordained clergy (from all denominations) consider hardlined and sometimes heartless immigration policy the antithesis of moral teachings.

Quote:The Catholic Charities Diocese of San Diego has helped more than 360,000 people from over 146 countries in the last three years. They assist people who have been processed and released by the Department of Homeland Security at the border.

It must be different money, because our diocese is also considering selling VERY VALUABLE property to pay hundreds of outstanding abuse lawsuits still.

They filed Chapter 11 in June of last year. They aren't making enough or taking enough of that 3 billion to even cover the 23 million they filed for bankruptcy over.

Consider it. Even if the entire 3 billion of government money was given entirely to the 360,000 people by a single bankrupt diocese, that still is just spending 8,300 per person.

And you know all that money didn't go to a single diocese. Given how governments spend money, I'd say the Catholic Church helping that many tempest toss'd huddled masses is really efficient. Considering they've likely helped millions nationwide.

A religious thread needs some scripture too!

Quote:Leviticus 19:34

The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as one of your citizens; you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Quote:Deuteronomy 10:19

Love the foreigner, for you were foreigners in the land of Egypt.

Though they didn't really get into "legal stranger" vs "illegal stranger," or "illegal foreigner." I don't think there were any caveats of contingent applicability covered by scripture.
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(02-05-2025, 11:57 AM)sahgwa Wrote: This is very apropos and a reminder of the evil of the Vatican Bank.

Just last night we watched a Why Files that reminded us of the role of the Vatican Bank in facilitating the cancer that infected the USA after WW2, Nazism, through the rat-lines sponsored and paid for by the Vatican.

Not to mention, the role of the Vatican Bank in funding and money laundering for Operation Gladio and killing innocent civilians via bombs and shootings in the 50's through the 80s.....

The Vatican Bank .... that's probably why Pope John Paul I was murdered.
He got in and wanted to do an audit of the bank.
Within 30 days he was dead.
The Vatican lied about who found him dead.  
It was a nun but they lied for a long while and claimed it was one of his male priest assistants.
His slippers went missing.  
Turns out he had thrown up in them and they never got tested for poison.
AND the room was immediately scrubbed when he died.
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(02-05-2025, 01:41 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: A religious thread needs some scripture too!

yeah yeah .. help the huddled masses ... as long as they are LEGAL and aren't CRIMINALS.
Otherwise, you are taking food out of the mouths of American children and giving it to criminals.
That's not being charitable nor is it taking care of your own familys needs.  
Misplaced compassion.
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FlyersFan Wrote:as long as they are LEGAL and aren't CRIMINALS.


It's hard to argue against going after "criminals," but what is a criminal?

According to the new folks running border security now, "Anyone here illegal is now a criminal."

A nice little loophole. Like a messed up SAT analogy.

• Only some illegal aliens are criminals.
• All illegal aliens broke the law
• All illegal aliens are criminals

Like the guy already having made headlines locally. He was arrested, and his only crime was being here illegally. He worked. Paid employment taxes. Paid rent. Contributed to a prosperous society. He was torn from his naturalized daughter's arms by ICE.

From a moral standpoint that is horrible, IMO.

Not that anyone would be cheering, "Yay trauma of a child who should also have her longstanding birthright citizenship revoked on top of being cruelly separated from her father!"

Sometimes it really comes off like people are trying to align Trump's actions and the goals of his administration as still retaining a driving Christian influence. More like an argument for oneself to rationalize it all.

I'm not going to let a few dozen Venezuelan jackass gangsters, and Haitans eating Canadian geese skew my view if the vast majority of immigrants and cast them as such endemic criminals we need a blanket removal policy for all. Political ratcheting, and I don't feel like being their freaking wrench demanding change to an overblown problem.

To me it is like saying we should get rid of all Anglo-Saxons because Coeur d'Alene, Idaho was noted as a white supremacist meth hub for decades.

Just as messed up for me to assume all rural white people are all ignorant bigots cooking up Hitler's special recipe to poison society with.

The religious charities work like hospitals anyway. They are political by default for helping, but aren't considering anything but the human behind the illegal name.

And while it undoubtedly they have helped those that exploited their charity, crime statistics say they are helping people who commit less crime (in all categories) at lower rates than legal citizens.
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(02-05-2025, 05:25 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: • Only some illegal aliens are criminals.
• All illegal aliens broke the law
• All illegal aliens are criminals

That is accurate.
All illegals are criminals.
Line jumpers.
There is a legal process in place to come here, and there are quotas for good reasons.
They refuse to use the laws of the country that they are entering.
That makes them criminals.
Helping them is rewarding bad behavior.
It just causes even more people to commit the crimes.
And it just causes extreme burden upon the US tax payer.
Misplaced compassion.
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(02-05-2025, 11:49 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: The Catholic Church in the USA has made $3,000,000,000 in the past 15 years by engaging in human trafficking of illegal migrants to the United States....

The bishops, while bringing in $3,000,000,000 in tax payer money for the Catholic church, are actually twisting Christian teaching and are not following what the Catholic saints say about taking care of those around you first.

2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even while we were with you, we gave you this command: "If anyone is unwilling to work, he shall not eat." For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”

Economist Thomas Sowell claims there may be a culture of leisure in some parts of the world.  Even though they are rich in resources and room, many do not have jobs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPjq4S7G44A

They are also seemingly unwilling to take steps to control their numbers consummate with how hard they want to work.

Is it responsible to make sure all the room is filled up completely?
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(02-06-2025, 05:10 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: That is accurate.
All illegals are criminals.
Line jumpers.
There is a legal process in place to come here, and there are quotas for good reasons.
They refuse to use the laws of the country that they are entering.
That makes them criminals.
Helping them is rewarding bad behavior.
It just causes even more people to commit the crimes.
And it just causes extreme burden upon the US tax payer.
Misplaced compassion.

Fair enough.

They have 11.8 to 13.2 million (depending on estimate) to deport. 1 out of every 25 people in this country is now a criminal.

But making everyone a criminal makes it easier. I just feel bad... "for the children." It is required when you use children in an "appeal to morality" argument that you focus on their god given right to prosper. Otherwise, you've done it wrong.

So on that, I hope they send in ICE agents to speak to these children being traumatized in a comforting voice. At very least.

They need someone to calmly sit them down and say,

"Mommy and Daddy are criminals that broke our nations rules. You should be being raised in a place where the water gives you dysentery, you know that right? And if they uphold Trump's executive order to strike you of your birthright citizenship as well, you can see them again! Now here is a patriotic coloring book to patronize you while we look for legal relatives to place you with."
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(02-06-2025, 02:01 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: "Mommy and Daddy are criminals that broke our nations rules. You should be being raised in a place where the water gives you dysentery, ...
The American taxpayer can't support the entire world on our backs.   And it's not an excuse for having 20 million illegals break our laws and insist that the US tax payer carry the burden when their own countries should.   They have to fix their own countries .. not invade and break ours.

If kids get scared during deportation then that's the fault of their criminal parents who wrongly brought them here to begin with.  Saying 'we can't scare the kids' is not a legitimate excuse for leaving them in this country.   

BTW ... that kids with dysentery thing doesn't work.  Most of South America doesn't have that, and that's where most of the illegals come from.   If any country out there has dysentery, then they can fix their own broken country, and we can send people to help them there.  That's not a good excuse for those people to come here illegally and suck off us taxpayers.
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