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(02-05-2025, 05:05 AM)AlroyFarms Wrote: Maybe "tool" is the wrong word choice. I just know it helps me jump right into it. Not sure I'll get the same effect from listening to nails on a chalkboard but who knows.
I tried sending you a PM but I'm not sure I succeeded, I have nothing in my outbox.
But it's timely that I ask, do I know you from somewhere? If not I do apologize!
Yeah, I just sort of jumped right in to a tangent with word choice there, didn't I? Having a very right-brained youth, I've become a little extra attuned to that. Why, all I need to conquer this meditation stuff is the right tool! Lol...
We may have crossed threads before! Electronically, I mean. In one of my past lives, eh? I've just stalked your intro threads. Glad to meet you again!
(02-05-2025, 04:17 AM)Sirius Wrote: It's more like intuition for me or not me talking...uhmmm folks are going to get the wrong idea here but whatever.
Unfortunately my brain works in the way that I look at all of this and go towards thinking of how to build tech, so I don't have your positive outlook. There is also my lived experiences that shaped who I am today along with my perceptions.
You know, it's interesting you're calling that "unfortunate". It's not. What is unfortunate is the situation of those who attempt to constantly grasp that which is beyond the realm of applicable rationality without mastering or even attempting to come to terms with what is at hand in the material world. One cannot address the transrational properly without first addressing the rational. At least, I think so. It seems to me many seekers employ a form of rejectionism that leaves them adrift in woo-land, which is no place for the meek. That's unfortunate. Not whatever the hell it is you're doing here. :simile:
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(02-05-2025, 05:41 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: You know, it's interesting you're calling that "unfortunate". It's not. What is unfortunate is the situation of those who attempt to constantly grasp that which is beyond the realm of applicable rationality without mastering or even attempting to come to terms with what is at hand in the material world. One cannot address the transrational properly without first addressing the rational. At least, I think so. It seems to me many seekers employ a form of rejectionism that leaves them adrift in woo-land, which is no place for the meek. That's unfortunate. Not whatever the hell it is you're doing here. :simile:
Part of me is machine, another spirit, the two sides don't get along. I need to find balance.
I call not love in human frame,
But chrome, and fire, and roaring flame.
She came in smoke and metal breath,
A streak of lust, a dance with death.
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(02-05-2025, 05:41 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Yeah, I just sort of jumped right in to a tangent with word choice there, didn't I? Having a very right-brained youth, I've become a little extra attuned to that. Why, all I need to conquer this meditation stuff is the right tool! Lol...
We may have crossed threads before! Electronically, I mean. In one of my past lives, eh? I've just stalked your intro threads. Glad to meet you again!
Upgrade to Premium for even more Exclusive Enlightened Content! Well...I mean rather than a tool or a gimmick, what about it just being a product of human culture? In fact, cross-cultural, universal and timeless even. Humans have engaged in various rituals involving music or sound or even silence for spiritual purposes, secular purposes, entertainment purposes etc.
So what's all that different from an oscillating fan vs. ritual drumming, meditation chimes, mantras, prayers, audio tapes, self-affirmation behaviors etc. It takes different strokes to move the world and all roads lead to Rome is my opinion. It's not the preferred method, but the fire in the heart that gets you there!
The illusion and breakdown begins when "My method is more true and correct and accurate than yours!"
However, I'd bet dollars to donuts that at least some can agree that falling asleep with a fan noise in the summer heat is a good rest.
Doesn't make for a very catching title though does it
(Well if you are who I think you are, I miss you and want you to know I still think of you every now and then old pal. If you're not who I think you are, then be liberal with the tar and feathers!)
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(02-05-2025, 03:13 AM)Sirius Wrote: You made the same thread on ATS, there is an interesting comment there about "standing wave technology". I remember something from the gateway docs where they said creating the REBAL produces as standing wave in the brain. My guess is this is how the information downloads happen and how you plug into the matrix. I actually have a couple of posts/threads on this already.
This is the main thread and got side tracked for a bit.
https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Magnetoreception
The notion that quantum physics must be the underlying mechanism for consciousness first emerged in the 1990s, when Nobel Prize–winning physicist Roger Penrose, PhD
https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Quantum...s%E2%80%9D
Here I was looking for a rational answer.
https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Presentiment
Basic stuff
https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Magneti...gnetic-WTH
https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Wavefronts
The spooky bit is you can skip all the science and just listen to a Buddhist monk or a yogi and get the same info. There is also a definite push to connect the two and have this info in the public.
A big problem is that most people live pretty crappy lives and not by their design, going down this path inevitably leads to psychosis. How do we lift 7 billion people out of trauma without having a mental health crisis? Arguably we already have a mental health crisis that will take generations to fix against strong opposition.
Sudden enlightenment will have most people frothing at the mouth unfortunately. Perhaps this is the endgame, like the Tower of Babel. Everyone going in a different direction, chaos abound while a select group builds a new world order. The people will be broken and this is pure evil, the very thing that is supposed to lift us up to the heavens is weaponized against us.
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Case File: E-73—"The Fractured Awakening"
Date: October 12, 2023
Location: Unspecified Monastery Ruins, Himalayas
Recovered by: Independent Investigator A. Vasquez
Status: Classified
Summary:
A photograph recovered from the remains of an abandoned monastery, its origins unknown. The image depicts a spectral entity—neither fully formed nor entirely absent—hovering in the mist. Its elongated limbs and obscured face suggest a being caught between dimensions, shifting like a mirage. The surrounding air appears distorted, as if reality itself is bending around it.
Witnesses in the area spoke of an "enlightenment sickness" that struck those who attempted to grasp too much, too quickly. "They sought the truth," an aged monk murmured, "but the truth is a river that drowns, not a road that leads home." Those who delved too deeply were found in trances, their minds fractured by glimpses of something vast and inhuman. Some never spoke again. Others whispered of a knowledge so profound it rendered all human suffering meaningless—and thus, unbearable.
Speculation arises: Could the sudden exposure to higher consciousness break the psyche beyond repair? The link between spiritual transcendence and psychosis is not new, but what if something—someone—is ensuring that no one ascends intact? Is enlightenment being weaponized? If so, by whom?
The photograph remains the only physical evidence of the phenomenon. Experts analyzing it report an unsettling sensation of vertigo when staring too long. Digital distortions appear in every copy, as if the entity resists being observed.
One researcher, upon viewing the image, muttered: "This isn’t just a ghost. This is an idea, unchained."
if ATS is up and working check out my thread "Schumann resonances, electromagnetism and the brain" it has lots of pertinate info.
We were, according to which way you want to think created/evolved here on earth being bombarded by the Schumann resonance. Our brain frequencies corresponding to different meditative/trance states are entrained with these resonate frequencies.
Much greater detail in that thread. I don’t goto ats anymore due to the hacks, but it should be easy to find with a search.
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(02-05-2025, 08:49 AM)pianopraze Wrote: if ATS is up and working check out my thread "Schumann resonances, electromagnetism and the brain" it has lots of pertinate info.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread813348/pg1
WOW huge thread! Looks like it was posted just before I ever joined. Thanks for bringing it up!
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(02-05-2025, 03:13 AM)Sirius Wrote: The spooky bit is you can skip all the science and just listen to a Buddhist monk or a yogi and get the same info. There is also a definite push to connect the two and have this info in the public.
A big problem is that most people live pretty crappy lives and not by their design, going down this path inevitably leads to psychosis. How do we lift 7 billion people out of trauma without having a mental health crisis? Arguably we already have a mental health crisis that will take generations to fix against strong opposition.
Sudden enlightenment will have most people frothing at the mouth unfortunately. Perhaps this is the endgame, like the Tower of Babel. Everyone going in a different direction, chaos abound while a select group builds a new world order. The people will be broken and this is pure evil, the very thing that is supposed to lift us up to the heavens is weaponized against us. I am afraid you are perhaps confusing a few concepts together.
If someone was 'enlightened' then, ipso facto, they would be already balanced and have gone through the necessary training via normal life experience or spiritual practise, to remain functional and sane despite raising their energy and vibration.
What you may be thinking of is sudden kundalini awakening which is not enlightenment, but can often result in unbalance. Even in OBE work there is a potential for mental unbalance if the energy is unbalanced, or more focused in one chakra/area than the others. Simple taking of breaks and grounding oneself with normal physical activity like walking, showers, swimming, and eating heavy food can bring one back to 'normal'
Likewise certain ritual magic systems can lead to mental unbalance if one is already prone to being lopsided or obsessive. That is why it is a standard admonition of responsible schools, that the aspirant undergo some kind of counseling or therapy, even informally, before starting upon the Path as a serious student.
One thing I did when I was younger that I highly recommend is 'Toltec' recapitulation. It has a lot in common with certain Daoist systems I worked in with Korean teachers, also. A simple making a list of all the energetic charges you have built up over a lifetime, the trauma and memories that you know are still with you strongly.
You mentally travel back and relive each of them, until you can feel the charges dissipating. Each memory on the list, you go back and re-feel all the physicality, all the emotions, and 'reconcile' it. And it's free! :D
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(02-05-2025, 05:41 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Yeah, I just sort of jumped right in to a tangent with word choice there, didn't I? Having a very right-brained youth, I've become a little extra attuned to that. Why, all I need to conquer this meditation stuff is the right tool! Lol...
We may have crossed threads before! Electronically, I mean. In one of my past lives, eh? I've just stalked your intro threads. Glad to meet you again!
You know, it's interesting you're calling that "unfortunate". It's not. What is unfortunate is the situation of those who attempt to constantly grasp that which is beyond the realm of applicable rationality without mastering or even attempting to come to terms with what is at hand in the material world. One cannot address the transrational properly without first addressing the rational. At least, I think so. It seems to me many seekers employ a form of rejectionism that leaves them adrift in woo-land, which is no place for the meek. That's unfortunate. Not whatever the hell it is you're doing here. :simile: I think you're talking about the common 'Old Aeon' /patriarchal Abrahamic tendency towards self denial and restriction.
Generally this goes nowhere good, as history can attest, because most of those 'prophets' have not been properly 'in the world'/balanced/tested and tried into being more functional members of society. It then leads to things like witch hunts , projectionism and often obsession.
In my opinion and personal experience, one needs to be able to function at least at a medium productive and healthy level in society before they should even start trying to work on their nonphysical side.
Everything needs a very strong root and foundation if it is going to grow into a flower that can spread joy and love to itself and others.
These are all just my opinions of course.
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Keeping on with the thread, I have restarted doing meditational breathwork, or pranayama and I also recommend that. It's simple and it calms your mind and gets your energy flowing through all the channels nicely.
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(02-05-2025, 09:07 AM)AlroyFarms Wrote: https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread813348/pg1
WOW huge thread! Looks like it was posted just before I ever joined. Thanks for bringing it up!
You’re welcome.
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I appreciate all the contributions to this thread. I admit I don't know much of the science behind 'spirit' or metaphysical, but I'm grateful there are members who do. It helps corroborate a lot of my own notes on the subject.
For whatever reason, I started my experiences as a young teen and have always sought answers. It helps tremendously, of course, when others have already done the research hah!
I don't consider myself anyone special or enlightened. I'm just a normal guy who works hard and enjoys sports and BBQ.
I did have a medium tell me I was a Shaman in a past life, and I do believe what he said. He was able to tell me things he couldn't possibly have known about me, and my family history. First time meeting and it was scary how much he could read me like an open book.
Maybe some of us come into our current life with prerequisite knowledge and money in the bank?
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