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Bangor Maine “Free Palestine” Protest.
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On Wednesday (April 9th), I linked up with a few like-minded folks and we spent the day exploring Bangor, Maine. While walking through the city, we came across a group of protesters holding “Free Palestine” signs. What struck me immediately was the visual contrast—many of the demonstrators, particularly the women, were dressed in ways that would likely be forbidden in Gaza or much of Palestine due to strict cultural and religious codes. Some wore revealing tops, tight-fitting clothes, even midriff-exposing outfits—all things that would be considered inappropriate or even dangerous in more conservative areas of the Middle East.
There were also members of the LGBTQ+ community visibly participating in the protest. That added another layer of contradiction, considering that openly expressing LGBTQ+ identity in many parts of Palestine can lead to serious persecution or worse.
I approached a few of them and voiced my concerns—pointing out the irony that their right to protest, dress freely, and live openly wouldn’t be protected in the very place they were supporting. Unfortunately, rather than engage in a civil dialogue, a few individuals became hostile and things nearly escalated.
I stood my ground and kept it peaceful, but it was a sobering moment. I believe in free speech, even when it’s uncomfortable, but it’s clear that some people only value it when it aligns with their viewpoint.
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(04-12-2025, 05:46 PM)Redsun2025 Wrote: On Wednesday (April 9th), I linked up with a few like-minded folks and we spent the day exploring Bangor, Maine. While walking through the city, we came across a group of protesters holding “Free Palestine” signs. What struck me immediately was the visual contrast—many of the demonstrators, particularly the women, were dressed in ways that would likely be forbidden in Gaza or much of Palestine due to strict cultural and religious codes. Some wore revealing tops, tight-fitting clothes, even midriff-exposing outfits—all things that would be considered inappropriate or even dangerous in more conservative areas of the Middle East.
There were also members of the LGBTQ+ community visibly participating in the protest. That added another layer of contradiction, considering that openly expressing LGBTQ+ identity in many parts of Palestine can lead to serious persecution or worse.
I approached a few of them and voiced my concerns—pointing out the irony that their right to protest, dress freely, and live openly wouldn’t be protected in the very place they were supporting. Unfortunately, rather than engage in a civil dialogue, a few individuals became hostile and things nearly escalated.
I stood my ground and kept it peaceful, but it was a sobering moment. I believe in free speech, even when it’s uncomfortable, but it’s clear that some people only value it when it aligns with their viewpoint.

Right or wrong the LGBTQ+ kind of just hangs on any other minority issues so thier voices can be heard, there's plenty of lesbians and gays growing less enchanted about being grouped with the more extreme views.
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#3
When protestors don't follow the guidelines of the ideals they are protesting for, shows they don't understand what they're doing  Lol
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(04-12-2025, 05:46 PM)Redsun2025 Wrote: On Wednesday (April 9th), I linked up with a few like-minded folks and we spent the day exploring Bangor, Maine. While walking through the city, we came across a group of protesters holding “Free Palestine” signs. What struck me immediately was the visual contrast—many of the demonstrators, particularly the women, were dressed in ways that would likely be forbidden in Gaza or much of Palestine due to strict cultural and religious codes. Some wore revealing tops, tight-fitting clothes, even midriff-exposing outfits—all things that would be considered inappropriate or even dangerous in more conservative areas of the Middle East.
There were also members of the LGBTQ+ community visibly participating in the protest. That added another layer of contradiction, considering that openly expressing LGBTQ+ identity in many parts of Palestine can lead to serious persecution or worse.
I approached a few of them and voiced my concerns—pointing out the irony that their right to protest, dress freely, and live openly wouldn’t be protected in the very place they were supporting. Unfortunately, rather than engage in a civil dialogue, a few individuals became hostile and things nearly escalated.
I stood my ground and kept it peaceful, but it was a sobering moment. I believe in free speech, even when it’s uncomfortable, but it’s clear that some people only value it when it aligns with their viewpoint.

Everyone switched lanes.

The far-right largely didn't support Israel until about 2016.... for a similar position of convenience.

It was about the time of Q-Anon that it all switched. Because the controlling elites went from being Jews (pushing progressive agenda) to Woke Lefists (pushing progressive agenda - which were no longer Jews)

But I think about the "Chickens for KFC Conundrum" like the "States Rights Conundrum."

States rights can be awesome if it let's Texas outlaw abortion after 6 weeks, to side with the inalienable rights of a embryo over an adult, as more protected by 14th amendment. (Citing the past to say "it hasn't traditionally been seen as a gender protection")

** But **

States rights are corrupt if it let's Colorado outlaw all semi automatic weapons, leaving only shotguns and revolvers, as not explicitly protected by The 2nd Amendment. (Citing history to say semi-automatic firearms didn't exist in America in the 18th Century, and couldn't be planned for)

A right to every protection under the 2nd is inalienable and undebatable.

A right to every "liberty guarantee" under The 14th is debatable.

This LGBT for Palestine is a left-leaning position of convenience.

And this is why it's called Marxism. "The oppressed/oppressor dynamic" is instilled by Marxism, but also instilled by every Church Lady that blames Satan for everything.

The left version of that tendency is to see whoever is most disadvantaged and discriminated against as the underdog to be given support. Same thing happened with Ukraine.

But the right version sees the oppressor in a more superstitious and contrived way. Like the whole "cabal of Obama's controlling elites" thing. Trump garners that same underdog support. He is the oppressed and those cloak and dagger elites are the oppressor. Which is why Trump support can ALSO drift into contradictory places.

And why Trump can go against States rights on some things. Like Maine's State Rights to ignore his transathlete EO. It's okay to support cutting education funding for a state over that.

Because it's all about protecting my title IX guarentees from Kaitlin Jenner beating me in a decathlon.

"Oh, so NOW you care about women having ALL their rights upheld!? Interesting. Gotta go white knight for title IX protections in Maine, eh? But.. but..."
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(04-12-2025, 05:46 PM)Redsun2025 Wrote: On Wednesday (April 9th), I linked up with a few like-minded folks and we spent the day exploring Bangor, Maine. While walking through the city, we came across a group of protesters holding “Free Palestine” signs. What struck me immediately was the visual contrast—many of the demonstrators, particularly the women, were dressed in ways that would likely be forbidden in Gaza or much of Palestine due to strict cultural and religious codes. Some wore revealing tops, tight-fitting clothes, even midriff-exposing outfits—all things that would be considered inappropriate or even dangerous in more conservative areas of the Middle East.
There were also members of the LGBTQ+ community visibly participating in the protest. That added another layer of contradiction, considering that openly expressing LGBTQ+ identity in many parts of Palestine can lead to serious persecution or worse.
I approached a few of them and voiced my concerns—pointing out the irony that their right to protest, dress freely, and live openly wouldn’t be protected in the very place they were supporting. Unfortunately, rather than engage in a civil dialogue, a few individuals became hostile and things nearly escalated.
I stood my ground and kept it peaceful, but it was a sobering moment. I believe in free speech, even when it’s uncomfortable, but it’s clear that some people only value it when it aligns with their viewpoint.

I humbly submit a suggestion... no, a hypothesis...

It is the nature of activists to "use" all engagement as a "stage" and platform to "shine" in the name of their particular virtue.

Even if you sincerely wish to discuss... it is the audience to whom they must speak, not you.
Very often, the activist speaks "at" his opponent, not to him or her... at least when "on stage" such as at a protest.
It will not be a discussion.
Sometimes, you can become an object in a "this  is how I do it" display. 
Foul stuff. Especially as they have a wall of supporters present.

Activism manifests now as a social weapon, including gang behavior.... 

But I expect there are some who don't to follow that pattern... I just can't find them.

Nevertheless this is another candidate for media abuse.
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#6
The LGBTQ or similar for Palestine protests and mindset exists globally. One possible explanation for their cognitive dissonance is they jumble left-wing political stances into one pot.

https://x.com/JulietMosesNZ/status/1906211102159245461

Chole Swarbrick, the [New Zealand] Green MP, addresses the crowd in the video clip linked above. Note to the international reader: Swarbrick references the debate around interpreting the Treaty of Waitangi.
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(04-12-2025, 07:58 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Everyone switched lanes.

The far-right largely didn't support Israel until about 2016.... for a similar position of convenience.

It was about the time of Q-Anon that it all switched. Because the controlling elites went from being Jews (pushing progressive agenda) to Woke Lefists (pushing progressive agenda - which were no longer Jews)

But I think about the "Chickens for KFC Conundrum" like the "States Rights Conundrum."

States rights can be awesome if it let's Texas outlaw abortion after 6 weeks, to side with the inalienable rights of a embryo over an adult, as more protected by 14th amendment. (Citing the past to say "it hasn't traditionally been seen as a gender protection")

** But **

States rights are corrupt if it let's Colorado outlaw all semi automatic weapons, leaving only shotguns and revolvers, as not explicitly protected by The 2nd Amendment. (Citing history to say semi-automatic firearms didn't exist in America in the 18th Century, and couldn't be planned for)

A right to every protection under the 2nd is inalienable and undebatable.

A right to every "liberty guarantee" under The 14th is debatable.

This LGBT for Palestine is a left-leaning position of convenience.

And this is why it's called Marxism. "The oppressed/oppressor dynamic" is instilled by Marxism, but also instilled by every Church Lady that blames Satan for everything.

The left version of that tendency is to see whoever is most disadvantaged and discriminated against as the underdog to be given support. Same thing happened with Ukraine.

But the right version sees the oppressor in a more superstitious and contrived way. Like the whole "cabal of Obama's controlling elites" thing. Trump garners that same underdog support. He is the oppressed and those cloak and dagger elites are the oppressor. Which is why Trump support can ALSO drift into contradictory places.

And why Trump can go against States rights on some things. Like Maine's State Rights to ignore his transathlete EO. It's okay to support cutting education funding for a state over that.

Because it's all about protecting my title IX guarentees from Kaitlin Jenner beating me in a decathlon.

"Oh, so NOW you care about women having ALL their rights upheld!? Interesting. Gotta go white knight for title IX protections in Maine, eh? But.. but..."

I'd agree, but you are mostly talking about the extremes on both sides: 10-15% on the right and 15-20% on the left. The remaining 65% isn't blind to the situation. In a huge country of diversity, groups will always have different priorities. 

The left stopped being the party of the common blue-collar man and it shows, they chased flirted, and won over the influential media and entertainment moguls at the expense of the blue-collar workforce base REALITY 

The more the protests and chaos tactics are used the more voters the cause will lose, BECAUSE people get tired of protests and chaos especially people who bust thier asses at a blue-collar job. Too many of the foundation planks of the 21st-century DNC party platforms just box out thier noses to the grindstone historical base. 

We are heading much closer to 55-45 if not 60-40, it's not just because of Trump worship, the left offers nothing to the working person.

In one speech Kimberly Brown broke the old decrepit dementia-ridden Blue Wall... as the left still demands people to modify themselves and thier scruples and morals to fit into the still clueless Go Big Blue party platform. 


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#8
there may be a factor of identifying with the "outgroup" going on with lgbtq, like empathy regardless if don't agree with culture and values should still be allowed to live their lives without being squeezed out or bombs dropped on. see that in their own lives, persecution complex? that or seen too many videos of dead kids. simple as. maybe not even looking at geopolitics.
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#9
Actually, The "far-right" always supported Israel. The "far-left" however is a different story as they have always been deeply engaged in fake outrage and controlled opposition operations  Biggrin

(Partial pertinent quote:)
(04-12-2025, 07:58 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Everyone switched lanes.

The far-right largely didn't support Israel until about 2016.... for a similar position of convenience.

It was about the time of Q-Anon that it all switched. Because the controlling elites went from being Jews (pushing progressive agenda) to Woke Lefists (pushing progressive agenda - which were no longer Jews)
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#10
One thing that slips under the radar here is that for many, if not nearly all, of the young people and immature older people, it's not at all about the cause. It's about being the center of attention and rebelling. It's about them looking at the world around them and identifying the most outrageous things they can find to protest in support of. If questioned, the protesters mostly can't cite facts about what they are protesting. The cause does not matter as long as it gets them attention and upsets their parents and everyone they see as having authority. It's about sticking it to "The Man," same as it was in all past generations.

Both political parties wrongly encourage it for votes, the lifeblood of politics. The media does the same. The most dangerous part of it is that they become targets for true sociopaths looking for power, and they use them. People lacking critical thinking skills are easy to control.

It's not at all surprising that the terrorists take advantage of this. Hamas is as evil as any group like it that has ever existed. They don't even hide what their goals are: The destruction of Israel and the Jews, followed by the destruction of the US and the Western World, followed by forcing all people remaining to join them or die. They have made their plans very clear and have never hidden that. No doubt they laugh their butts off talking about how stupid and easy to control our children and young adults are and how bad our schools and parents have become. Sigh...
"Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech."
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