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At current rates of migration
#1
m all for immigration real and robust policies
but it can't just be left wide open and unregulated or controlled. It's unsustainable floods and destroyed our border towns' infrastructure and we haven't gotten to where they are all being shipped off to and will end up


https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1744058476387557867?s=20


At current rates, we can expect over 12 million illegal immigrant encounters in the first term of Joe Biden's presidency.
That's nearly as much as the preceding 3 terms combined.



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#2
We are being invaded. We  can't afford it. There is no cohesion when this many people come in all at once.  And yet, the democrats scream "LET MORE COME".  It's insanity.
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#3
It is unsustainable.  And....
Destabilizing.
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#4
Living for 68 years near the border, Ive been screaming about this for years.    Ive been called racist and all kinds of things for knowing about this issue from up close.
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(01-08-2024, 12:00 PM)CoyoteAngels Wrote: Living for 68 years near the border, Ive been screaming about this for years.    Ive been called racist and all kinds of things for knowing about this issue from up close.

I don't know how you do it, honestly. Ive been told McAllen Tx used to be beautiful in the 80s, but now not so much.

(01-08-2024, 08:47 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: We are being invaded. We  can't afford it. There is no cohesion when this many people come in all at once.  And yet, the democrats scream "LET MORE COME".  It's insanity.

It is insane, and if it's not curtailed and regulated we will have millions of people with out a hope of living their lives in America too it's fullest.

We need an out of the box solution. America,Mexico and Central and South American countries need to set up an Immigrant city, a Pre America with basic housing, training and services to prepare them for America. A place immigrants go and live for 6-24 months and get processed, get work visas, and learn the basic things about living in America. Slowly incorporating those who are adaptive, and allowing others to take thier time getting acclimated. No one should be coming across without a sponsor or without a job. 

Done right a certain percentage could live and work in Pre America till they could find stable and safe environs in the US. It's to all of our benefit that the majority get trained and have the best opportunity to succeed, instead of being dumped on the street with a prepaid cell phone after a few months of living in a hotel.
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#6
USA is a very large country, but here in the UK (a vastly smaller country) we are fully on the way to be taken over or even out bred. And the numbers keep growing. It's as if our government is actively trying to ruin our nationality. Or is that a racist comment?
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(01-10-2024, 02:27 PM)putnam6 Wrote: I don't know how you do it, honestly. Ive been told McAllen Tx used to be beautiful in the 80s, but now not so much.


It is insane, and if it's not curtailed and regulated we will have millions of people with out a hope of living their lives in America too it's fullest.

We need an out of the box solution. America,Mexico and Central and South American countries need to set up an Immigrant city, a Pre America with basic housing, training and services to prepare them for America. A place immigrants go and live for 6-24 months and get processed, get work visas, and learn the basic things about living in America. Slowly incorporating those who are adaptive, and allowing others to take thier time getting acclimated. No one should be coming across without a sponsor or without a job. 

Done right a certain percentage could live and work in Pre America till they could find stable and safe environs in the US. It's to all of our benefit that the majority get trained and have the best opportunity to succeed, instead of being dumped on the street with a prepaid cell phone after a few months of living in a hotel.

If immigration  court dates are now nearly a decade I think the waiting list for a Pre America could be impossibly long.  Half a century?
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#8
The US is built on a foundation of immigrants. It has worked really well for us throughout our history.

The problem as I see it is that instead of getting things done through compromise, our leaders continue to use immigration as a campaign tool.

What we need is an easy way for the people we need to come here to work without jumping through a lot of hoops. Then we need an easier way for them to become citizens. Then we need the damn border closed. It all needs to happen at once.

This is a problem that can be fixed, but it's not going to happen until all of us demand it, and it's no longer a campaign tool.
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(01-12-2024, 04:10 PM)CoyoteAngels Wrote: If immigration  court dates are now nearly a decade I think the waiting list for a Pre America could be impossibly long.  Half a century?

Did you miss the point once established Immigration City or pre-America will be set up and functioning better than any situation these poor people were running from? Hell give them a house a job and check many will be content right there. As long as it is secure and relatively safe. Imagine a city where people are trained for jobs in construction,farming, health-care, police security, for example. People will be working and training there instead of sitting in some holding area or dumped into a hotel with a cell phone and nothing else. We train for the first few years worth then eventually it's totally run by immigrants.  



Once they have been here 6-12 months no court dates just a simple citizen test and placement in a community where they have a job and a place to live already or sponsors, instead of dropping them off no training, no home no job. Makes no sense and all it does is increase the welfare state. Having a place like this is to all countries involved advantage, these countries spend billions as it is. Why not try something different. If we don't our standard of living will plummet, we will have millions on welfare. 

The Ukraine war has shown we have billions to send for making Ukraine better why not spend billions to make America better

(01-12-2024, 04:57 PM)Blaine91555 Wrote: The US is built on a foundation of immigrants. It has worked really well for us throughout our history.

The problem as I see it is that instead of getting things done through compromise, our leaders continue to use immigration as a campaign tool.

What we need is an easy way for the people we need to come here to work without jumping through a lot of hoops. Then we need an easier way for them to become citizens. Then we need the damn border closed. It all needs to happen at once.

This is a problem that can be fixed, but it's not going to happen until all of us demand it, and it's no longer a campaign tool.

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-d...745424f6ff

We need a place to hold and process them before they get in America without a chance in hell of finding work
They are sending immigrants into areas and then pining that they need redistricting because of the population influx already. No telling what other ways TPTB are gaming the system. I agree about immigration but we need to give them a better chance to succeed before they get thrown into NYC and basically are on thier own, or with an advocate whose caseload is so swamped that hundreds get lost and become issues one way or another through crime and gangs or just from the shear lack of basic skills.
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#10
Immigration is only legal if the laws are follwed to enter. A certain number if entry visas are allotted each year and those who apply are to be thoroughly vetted before being accepted, according to the law. 

None of the millions pouring in are being vetted or even followed once they're here.

I heard a senator commenting today that without these illegal immigrants there will be no one to harvest our crops. How is it we have such stupid people in charge of our country?
If that's the best they can come up with, why not issue the number of work visas needed for the harvest season?

What was wrong with the former administration having immigrants wait in Mexico until they had been vetted?

At the very least they could give thease migrants a physical and treat their communicable diseases (like syphilis) before turning them loose.

Politicians have spent decades fighting over this issue instead of working to ammend the laws; they just break whatever laws they want while expecting the rest of us to follow them-or be held accountable.
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