Astral Protection

[sahgwa]

I am only gifted with the ability to do a fully 'physical' OBE from time to time. But part of my daily practise is 'basic hygienic rituals' like the LBRP and LBRH.  
Before projecting I recommend a basic protection ritual like the above Lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram, and also I enjoy inner qi gong/chakra work/ breath work.
Intent is energy, and energy is controlled by mind, largely visualisation and focus/imagination. 
If you are in a clean space, you don't need to worry about entities attaching to you.
Funnily enough, salt is very powerful. If you are paranoid you could make a physical circle of salt ,but I don't think it's necessary.
Again, it's whatever works for YOU.  It's all about YOUR Inner and Outer space, no one else's.

I forgot to add, I like Monroe's technique I don't use all the time, but it involves creating a cycle of energy around you like a moving egg, which protects you.  energy goes in through the feet, out through the sahasrara chakra at the crown of the head, like a fountain, envelops, and returns back down into the bottom of the feet.

[argentus]

When I was 18, in 1976, I read Robert Monroe's book entitled "Astral Projection".    I followed his guidestones and works about electric dreams and levitating out of one's body.   He warned of malevolent entities that one might encounter, and even cautioned that some of those entities could attack and prevent the reunion of your spirit (if that's what you choose to call it) and your body.  

Well.  That last bit frightened the shit out of me, so I was reluctant to advance my OOBE experiences.    I read more of Mr. Monroe's works, and discovered there were self-enforcing procedures a person could practice to fortify their defences when travelling outside the body.   So, for quite a while, I engaged the electric dreams and lifted out and then practiced the power field which Monroe espoused.   

Around this time, I started to experience what is now called "Sleep Paralysis".   I didn't know this term then.   I felt that malevolent entities were attacking me in the fine border between sleep and wakefulness, and I was frightened to the point where I would get up from bed whenever the thrumming of energies up and down my body indicated the electric dreams and OOBE was soon to happen.   I had many nights of little sleep, but, hey, I was young;  sometimes I did that on purpose.   I wondered if I was being abducted by aliens.   

I consulted a shaman.   I was living in Venice, California at the time.   The shaman looked the part, and didn't charge much and had good pot.   He set me upon a series of mental exercises that I would perform at night when I was in that cusp between wakefulness and sleep.   This went on for several months.   As I "progressed" the shaman began encouraging me to go all in with the OOBE.   Just to let it buck, that I had enough skill and defensive weapons.   I started doing that.   I continue to have occasional "sleep paralysis" events.   A colleague of mine assured me that if I prayed, that the disruptions would cease, that they were demonic in nature.   This man was in a physics class with me.   He set me on the course of reconciling science with religion, and to this day, I believe that they are compatible, just using different language to describe similar phenomenon.   

I was and still am fairly spiritual, but I didn't want to pray and wipe the slate clean.   I thought there was experience in the mist that was important, that needed exploring and documenting.   

Since then, I have fully immersed in the "electric dreams/sleep paralysis" and it no longer frightens me.   I don't know what I think it is.   Part of me considers it to be an aberration of the subconscious, and the other side believes that it just might occasionally tap into the unmeasurable void.     Just occasionally now, I fly.   It is painless and without fear.   I still don't choose it;  sometimes it just happens, for no reason that I can measure or understand.

[jaded]

Oh Good Lord you kids make this so complicated!!!

Saghwa that's called "the Pillar of Light". It's a Jewish thing. Actually a very condensed version of  teachings. BTW you bounce the energy up to God, an back thru your feet into the center of the Earth which is also a molten core so a EarthStar. You ramp it up thru all your chakras, not your spine (obvious reasons)

If you're still at the stage you feel you need protections you shouldn't even be doing stuff.Just a heads up. You can't be romping around in that mental headspace cause you've already classified yourself as "Prey". Entities don't need you inducing their "prey drive". 

Fixes for a clear space is easy.
Firstly yell at them they aren't welcome, don't have your permission, Yell at them 'You Lie!!!" claiming the space is important. 
(in reference to whoever was seeing faces before going to sleep)
On your windows place a small cheap mirror facing outwards. Who DOESN'T love giving entities that carnival funhouse experience? Toss some salt under your mattress. You sleep 8-6 hrs, it'll help. 

Because you're "You", envision your home wrapped in different strands of colors, like a huge yarn ball. Use colors that AREN'T your's. Camoflage is a lovely thing. Last layer make crystal long sharp points. Or needles, or knives. Ouchies are also fun for entities! 

If indeed you're correct entities are lurking, you'll find out fast. 
Just like drinking liberal tears,(not meant to offend any dem posters!!!) listening to entities cussing & yelling cause they got burnt, hurt, shocked is glorious!!! 
Good entities will only be amused. But still show up. They think we're cute when we get feisty.

Metaphysical work is NOT all love'n light with fancy procedures or years of study. You're just walking thru gang-territory in the non-physical on your way to someplace else. Just passing thru. If you can't be gangsta/guerilla? Best to stay home.

Hope this helps. 
Stop complicating things 

[argentus]

Oh Good Lord you kids make this so complicated!!!

Saghwa that's called "the Pillar of Light". It's a Jewish thing. Actually a very condensed version of  teachings. BTW you bounce the energy up to God, an back thru your feet into the center of the Earth which is also a molten core so a EarthStar. You ramp it up thru all your chakras, not your spine (obvious reasons)

If you're still at the stage you feel you need protections you shouldn't even be doing stuff.Just a heads up. You can't be romping around in that mental headspace cause you've already classified yourself as "Prey". Entities don't need you inducing their "prey drive". 

Fixes for a clear space is easy.
Firstly yell at them they aren't welcome, don't have your permission, Yell at them 'You Lie!!!" claiming the space is important. 
(in reference to whoever was seeing faces before going to sleep)
On your windows place a small cheap mirror facing outwards. Who DOESN'T love giving entities that carnival funhouse experience? Toss some salt under your mattress. You sleep 8-6 hrs, it'll help. 

Because you're "You", envision your home wrapped in different strands of colors, like a huge yarn ball. Use colors that AREN'T your's. Camoflage is a lovely thing. Last layer make crystal long sharp points. Or needles, or knives. Ouchies are also fun for entities! 

If indeed you're correct entities are lurking, you'll find out fast. 
Just like drinking liberal tears,(not meant to offend any dem posters!!!) listening to entities cussing & yelling cause they got burnt, hurt, shocked is glorious!!! 
Good entities will only be amused. But still show up. They think we're cute when we get feisty.

Metaphysical work is NOT all love'n light with fancy procedures or years of study. You're just walking thru gang-territory in the non-physical on your way to someplace else. Just passing thru. If you can't be gangsta/guerilla? Best to stay home.

Hope this helps. 
Stop complicating things 

If you are qualified to be a guide, I don't think it helps much you talking down to us.  

A guide lights the way in the hope that those who follow can see more clearly.    You could do some real good here.  Maybe it's your calling, who knows?   Those of us who have been lifelong wranglers of this process aren't "complicating" it.   We're just trying to find our way.   A guide who knows the way would be really, really helpful, but only if they can talk straight to us.  I'm 66.  I'm not a kid anymore, just not as experienced in the esoteric arts as you.   

You were once as us.   Did you hold back because you weren't skilled, or did you push on?   Did you have a mentor?  Do you really know the way?  Show us.

[UltraBudgie]

the best asstroll protection is to ignore everything from the oto

whistles innocently and flies away

[Sirius]

I forgot to add, I like Monroe's technique I don't use all the time, but it involves creating a cycle of energy around you like a moving egg, which protects you.  energy goes in through the feet, out through the sahasrara chakra at the crown of the head, like a fountain, envelops, and returns back down into the bottom of the feet.

 

Saghwa that's called "the Pillar of Light". It's a Jewish thing. Actually a very condensed version of  teachings. BTW you bounce the energy up to God, an back thru your feet into the center of the Earth which is also a molten core so a EarthStar. You ramp it up thru all your chakras, not your spine (obvious reasons)

This is very interesting. All the planets, moons and stars are connected.  With bouncing energy down to the center of the earth you can propel your self out (like if you tried to get to the center of a magnet) where you can either join up with energy from the sun flowing out into the universe or go back down for round two and in an endless spiral.

I must have been influenced by Monroe in my early teachings, allot of this is familiar even his techniques.  Allot of Jewish things popping up also that I was never aware off and it sounds more nuanced than just "Jewish".

Thank you to everyone, much to ponder. Some unexpected things both in absence and mentioned.

[putnam6]

Pardon my naivety, early morning thoughts and if possible point me towards some good reads about this topic astral projection and astral protection....

Not to speak out of place, it seems vibrating or a vibrational state has been reported in astral projection, in some alien and UFO encounters, cryptid encounters, and strange occurrences in our forests or national parks. Even reports of remote viewing IIRC in all instances the 'vibrations' are unpleasant so much so they repel most people while awake.

Ive had what I'd classify 100% as dreams, recently where I'd felt like I was floating rapidly through different scenes, then I was lying down asleep and opened my eyes and for lack of better words a silhouetted feminine presence floating right above me. It was not evil, menacing, or intimate at all it was just there floating, but as soon as I acknowledged thier presence the shadow billowed up and disappeared. Im disappointed it hasn't happened again it was an interesting AF dream. I wanted to find out who they were. 

Is it easier to enter the "vibrational state" dreaming while asleep and access the "astral" plane?

Is an astral plane like another dimension? or is it just us being able to access levels of mind our consciousness that are normally not accessible 

Is there a telepathic aspect? 

Is it all connected?

[Sirius]

Pardon my naivety, early morning thoughts and if possible point me towards some good reads about this topic astral projection and astral protection....
Is it easier to enter the "vibrational state" dreaming while asleep and access the "astral" plane?
Is an astral plane like another dimension? or is it just us being able to access levels of mind our consciousness that are normally not accessible 
Is there a telepathic aspect? 
Is it all connected?

So glad you popped in, some do encounter entities others do not. 

Well the good reads are all right here on DI and ATS. I found it best to talk to real people in places like this.

The vibrational state, it just comes with relaxing I don't know what to tell you. I don't even have to relax any more, can go there whenever I want. Here is a method, it's basically Monroe's technique. https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Zero-assist-guide-to-OBE-s

Is there a telepathic aspect? Yes or if there is a difference I wouldn't be able to tell you.

Is it all connected? another dimension? Also what I want to know and 50% of the reason this thread exists, learning about the dangers people find or not may give us a clue.

[UltraBudgie]

excuse my early morning incoherence but be careful about presuming it is people who have not i noticed more than a few careful wordings haha but also why on earth would you look for protection advice from others and on the internet of all places not saying anyone is lying or doesnt wish the best for you but just something to think about and as far as protection advice to not attract entities who may overwhelm you i would also mention hmm dont take the name of celestial entites as your own perhaps and dont create blackbox systems that evoke the darker spiritual images and dont try to wield your catageorizations over the energy realms, you might just find what doesnt fit neatly within the control that you want challenged haha so okay advice to the gungho is vague shit like know thyself and be grounded within and ignore the haters because no one whos been there wants to put a face on what youre clearly driven to go look at yourself regardless just my too sents and oh by the way youre right about everything

[sahgwa]

Pardon my naivety, early morning thoughts and if possible point me towards some good reads about this topic astral projection and astral protection....

Not to speak out of place, it seems vibrating or a vibrational state has been reported in astral projection, in some alien and UFO encounters, cryptid encounters, and strange occurrences in our forests or national parks. Even reports of remote viewing IIRC in all instances the 'vibrations' are unpleasant so much so they repel most people while awake.

Ive had what I'd classify 100% as dreams, recently where I'd felt like I was floating rapidly through different scenes, then I was lying down asleep and opened my eyes and for lack of better words a silhouetted feminine presence floating right above me. It was not evil, menacing, or intimate at all it was just there floating, but as soon as I acknowledged thier presence the shadow billowed up and disappeared. Im disappointed it hasn't happened again it was an interesting AF dream. I wanted to find out who they were. 

Is it easier to enter the "vibrational state" dreaming while asleep and access the "astral" plane?

Is an astral plane like another dimension? or is it just us being able to access levels of mind our consciousness that are normally not accessible 

Is there a telepathic aspect? 

Is it all connected?

To keep it brief since I am working (am I?)
It is far easier to astral project and vibrate from a dream state versus trying to project starting while awake. Some of my projections have been gifts from others moving me from a dream, to a real projection.  If you can lucid dream, this is a great starting point.
Monroe's saying which is true is 'mind awake, body asleep'
You can startle yourself out of trance by hearing your body snore. 
Astral plane is part of the energetic building block of the physical, or perhaps put another way, it is the neighboring frequency to the physical.  
Everything physical has an astral counterpart, but not everything astral is physical.