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Protection, not projection but also during projection and most importantly then, how do you protect yourself?
What are the taboos?
"Don't it is demonic" is also a answer, I appreciate all viewpoints on these things and everyone is welcome to participate always.
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well as your diagram indicates the circles must be inscribed, within and without. do research that is coherent with your practice, that is where you will find the definition of the circles (which is usually what they're called), it is very important to understand them not only individually but how they relate to and build on one another when making sigils and such. like not walking before crawling it is somewhat foolhardy to try and fly before you can walk or astral project before you can fly haha that doesnt stop people from trying though and perhaps that is necessary. have a safe anchor a haven. go for nothing.
more practical perhaps is to understand egoic untethering necessary for astral projection as it can be goddamn terrifying if youre not ready for it which no one ever is at first haha. gotta keep the body safe. practice with rhythmic breathing and energy flow autonomy, then sustained sensory withdrawal, then the reactionary and turbulant nature of intellect must be stilled as it will yank you right back if you let it. only then can you really get progress at moving consciousness beyond the localized intellect.
dont do drugs, kids.
"I cannot give you what you deny yourself. Look for solutions from within." - Kai Opaka
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11-25-2024, 11:20 AM
This post was last modified 11-25-2024, 12:03 PM by IdeomotorPrisoner. Edited 9 times in total. 
Oh, don't make people research. It backfires. And there's nothing evil about The Tree of Life, well there's severity.
Hexagrams are common occult things. Generally, just like the sephiroth, they correspond to elements, planets, and attributes of THE divine character.
That gives you a basic idea. The cliched "as above, so below" thing. There are several variations, with the sacred geometry (six pointed) one used most often with the occult.
I caution people against the esoteric in general. Like the entire secretive, "hidden," learn for yourself nature of it all. Thats where you "possess" yourself, with self or internet guided initiations that compound abstraction within, without any real foundation to build on.
You may get lost in a tailspin of finding constant meaning. And thinking you can commune on this divine channel, that's now sending you signs. Doesn't matter if they are angels, demons, aliens, or AI.
The only things really being projected is a vast unconscious web of ideas and more importantly, Superstition, that sometimes fills the practitioners head with mostly useless maxims, jargon and hidden meanings to events, symbols, and words. Gag.
A hexagram and associated projected thoughtforms are only gateways to evil if you have the prerequisite belief in magical talisman symbols and demons.
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11-25-2024, 11:36 AM
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no one expects yesod on their junk. love that diagram.
but just be practical, i'm saying, because this stuff involves sitting your body for a while while the mind goes a-hunting, and you gotta do that in a way that won't hurt you. i messed up my knee for a decade once, because i came back to a posture that stressed my tendon. okay, lesson learned, so maybe try incremental practice before you cut the cord so to speak, and try and astral project. if your preparation and circles and such can't protect your body, then you shouldn't trust them to protect brain, intellect, ego, consciousness spirit and such either, right? so build up gradually i guess. never trust the protection of another haha they don't have to walk around with a twingy knee for years.
hmm i am confusing google lol
eta til "only penguins have full-length fibulae" those waddly bastards
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Is the answers I'm going to get biased by the image? It just kinda looked cool at the moment of posting, that image was born with irritation at people posting things about numbers in the most cryptic of ways actually.
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(11-25-2024, 11:20 AM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: That gives you a basic idea. The cliched "as above, so below" thing. There are several variations, with the sacred geometry (six pointed) one used most often with the occult.
I caution people against the esoteric in general. Like the entire secretive, "hidden," learn for yourself nature of it all. Thats where you "possess" yourself, with self or internet guided initiations that compound abstraction within, without any real foundation to build on.
You may get lost in a tailspin of finding constant meaning. And thinking you can commune on this divine channel, that's now sending you signs. Doesn't matter if they are angels, demons, aliens, or AI.
The only things really being projected is a vast unconscious web of ideas and more importantly, Superstition, that sometimes fills the practitioners head with mostly useless maxims, jargon and hidden meanings to events, symbols, and words. Gag.
A hexagram and associated projected thoughtforms are only gateways to evil if you have the prerequisite belief in magical talisman symbols and demons.
I prefer to eliminate all of the "useless jargon" and get right to the point (no pun intended), but it's not really as good for forums though because it makes the writing a much shorter affair.
Did you see the blonde? FREEZE!! I'm actually talking about the "hexagram" right in the middle of that tree. The seven spheres with the Sun at center. Probably correlating directly with the star of David. That's Yetzirah to the Jews (see Ra at the end), and the 2nd Kabbalistic world (bottom up). It's the world of angels, so they got angel wings too, but some angels are in a different tree.
Anyway, back to the useless jargon, hidden meanings, symbols, and long-winded explanations that just keep going on and on into infinity. I actually argued with some Jewish guy on another forum that was like that, and the other day I stumbled upon this quote by Thomas Jefferson:
"The less we know, the longer our explanations."
There were other quotes similar to that one, but I think that one sums it up pretty good.
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(11-25-2024, 11:54 AM)Sirius Wrote: Is the answers I'm going to get biased by the image? It just kinda looked cool at the moment of posting, that image was born with irritation at people posting things about numbers in the most cryptic of ways actually.
You mean like gematria?
I love that calculator, its like the best tool for people when they go letter adding.
Or are you talking numerology?
You can combined them actually. With cryptic number posting, you can take anything and make it mean anything.
Like take election day of 11/5/2024. But really, it is 2/5/8 because you add up the numbers.
2 = Balance
5 = Freedom
8 = Leader
And then switch to gematria and take the full number. 258 = "God is here"
The add the value for the phrase "I am the beginning and the end." (519)
258 + 519 = 777 (the angel number)
God is here + I am the beginning and the end = Divine protection number.
Trump is now sent by God with a message and protection from guardian angels.
* Just don't add up "Gods Right hand" or "Trumpance," because then it's 258 + 408, which isn't an angel number. Well it is, just a fallen version.
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cursed image.
What about: envelop yourself in a shield of bright light or blue light, or why not green light?
Are tulpa's useful at all?
Go in with good intentions?
What about tasers? Since you all seem intent on summoning entities with your sigils
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Oh, you don't want to ask me that. You've been warned ahead of time. I have chaotic beliefs that only need make sense to me.
You are looking for protection?
Since it appears you're in the psychodramatic pull of superstition and true belief you should use THAT to your advantage. Use what comes natural.
Talismans are a common motif for protection. Folk practitioners use talismans, sacrifice, and macabre bags of dead things to protect themselves. Voodoo, Hoodoo, Santeria, and all the African/Christian hybrids do it.
So try St. Anthony. Go to Walmart, find the religious candle section and look for "the orisha" St. Anthony, who is the analog to Eleggua (AKA Papa Legba). He is the Catholic adapted saint that stands between our world and the other side at the crossroads. Usually he's for advantage or goals, but nothing says you can't use your sentiment to having him keep the doorway shut.
Or if you want all 7 archangels theres a symbol for that too. Thelema uses it reversed but keep the guardian angel 7s.
Buy an Archangel amulet. Or just draw the sigil. There's no harm in combining luck talismans so use the St Anthony candle too. Make like a protection altar or something. Add rosaries, or crosses, or anything you want so long as you believe conjuring these characters and combining these objects will protect you.
...or you could be cheap/lazy and just wear a cross and pray. The belief of protection is all that matters.
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Very cool, I like it. That middle ring of sigils looks interesting, will have to take a look at saints and angels again.
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