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Allowance for kids.
#1
Back when I was real young...before seven yrs old, I got fifty cents a week for allowance.  At around eight, we got a raise to a buck a week for allowance...my sister got the raise at the same time and she was around ten.

With the raise came more chores. I had to haul the garbage out to the garbage cans when they got full.  No plastic bags back then, just dump the garbage in the can.  I also had to shovel the snow from the sidewalk every morning and evening.  If there was a lot of snow, my Dad would help.  but I liked shoveling snow unless I was sick.  Plus I also shoveled in front of the neighbors house, and about once a month they tossed me about five bucks...I had to shovel it anyway, so that was a bonus.  I also had to mow the lawn and I enjoyed that, using the gas lawnmower was prestigious it made me feel like a million bucks.

Sounds like child labor laws didn't exist back then...because they didn't.  But I learned to work, I learned responsibility.  My sister usually did the dishes, I would wipe them and put them away where they belonged.  She also had to sweep the floors every few days, and we only had one room carpeted, so she vacuumed that like once a week.  We both did our own laundry all ready, and we liked it....it made us feel more mature.

Now in the summers, we had the farm, and we did some work there, increasing later on to make it so we made around three hundred bucks a summer, at thirteen I already had my own savings account at the bank, had to have my father cosign for me for that, and I had varying amounts of money in my account...from two hundred to five hundred. 

At about fourteen I also had my own job cleaning a dentist office in the building my mother had the cleaning contract with, I did chores there with the family without any pay, but shoveled, and got paid from the company for shoveling seperately every day.  Once a week I cleaned the accountant office, five bucks for that, and every day I cleaned the dentist office...fifteen bucks a week for that.  That was around sixty eight I started doing that. 

Now go back to the buck a week.  Sounds like almost nothing.  But I could get six full size hershey or name brand candybars, plus five 12 oz cokes or orange crush for that.  If I was feeling cheap, I could get a different candybar, which actually tasted better for five cents instead of seven, and a sixteen ounce nesbitts orance pop or sixteen ounce RC cola for two cents cheaper.  Chips were ten cents a bag, but the bags were the size of the ones that are now like a buck and a half at stores.

So lets take that into consideration.  A hershey bar that is smaller now is a buck thirty at the stores next to the checkout.  And the coke or other pop is a little less than two bucks in the cooler next to the counters but it is a sixteen ounce.  So, seventeen cents then equates to three thirty now.  So a buck a week at the same rate times 5.88 times buying a coke and candy bar would mean a kid should get like twenty bucks a week?  No, I am not giving my great grandkids twenty bucks a week for just watching cartoons after school.  They do not wash dishes, do not shovel, and definitely do not sweep or help around our house when they are here.  In fact, they seem to try to boss us around, they think we are going to make them something else if they don't like what we make.... Lol ....How did they become so entitles.

The grandkids get dropped off here in the morning, I put them on the bus, we make supper for them and my grandson-in-law most school days, then we clean up, they don't help, they are fighting over who's turn it is to pick what to watch on demand on TV.  Now, we do not charge for babysitting them, and we supply food for the two kids and grandson-in-laws supper free too, We also do sometimes make them breakfast cereal if they didn't eat, around here, he may have to shovel and brush the car off in the morning, so that could take time.

So do kids have to work for their allowance these days, or is that taboo now?  I keep telling the kids, I am not their servant, I cook most meals here, the wife is a step great grandma, it is not her job to help out, she works with the spelling words testing of the greatgranddaughter and keeps track of school things.

Kids should be taught how to fend for themselves, but these days, kids are just interested in technology and on demand tv.  I am not sure how to change that.  I think they should get rid of on demand TV, if you want to watch something, schedule it into your day.  But the wife loves the on demand stuff now, she has been compromised too, she is on the computer way too much too, and not doing research, she is chatting with everyone, messaging her friends to go out and eat or if anyone is going to the senior center for their lunch specials...she complains about not being able to go when all the spots are taken at the senior lunch because they need to call in at 8 in the morning...so a lot of seniors, most who are good cooks, are also getting spoiled.

But her total lunches at the senior center and monday with her friends come within the twenty buck a week allowance limit. Lol

It is hard to teach this new young generation to earn their allowance, because they are so preoccupied with entitlement that they think we are mean for setting rules.  Where are they getting this, is something being taught at schools, or are the kids just saying they have rights and spreading BS amongst each other.

So, this is just a gripe thread, are others who are grandparents or great grandparents seeing this in the kids too? 

Is our whole society getting entitles?
#2
First real thread, had to make it completely meaningless.  Lol
#3
What's a reasonable weekly allowance for kids now? $20? $40?
#4
(12-14-2025, 04:59 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: What's a reasonable weekly allowance for kids now? $20? $40?

If the kids finish their healthy supper, they get desert.  That is their allowance here. The youngest one, the boy, is going through oppositional defiance right now, hopefully we can get him straightened out in a year.  I don't like potatoes...yet he loves french fries and tater tots.  Do I have to eat all my potatoes...about two mouthfuls...yes, each quarter spoonful he asks is that enough, I am full...so we tell him, you don't get desert if you are full...repeat...repeat...repeat for every tiny bit of potatoes on the spoon he eats.  Same with chicken or beef, he wants that desert and resists eating anything.  thirty minutes to eat and complain, three minutes to eat his desert though.

Were kids always like this, or was it just that I used to be working so much I never had to deal with it.  Also, the school menu is all ultra processed foods, so of course, they want that junk food at home too, not healthy food choices...other than they both love iceberg salads with Western dressing on them...but just the lettuce, nothing else.

I think I liked building houses better than taking care of kids.  It was much easier, although my employees complained a lot, especially if they wanted to go for coffee at a restaurant, they would start trying to talk me into going an hour before lunch.
#5
(12-14-2025, 05:20 PM)rickymouse Wrote: If the kids finish their healthy supper, they get desert.  That is their allowance here. The youngest one, the boy, is going through oppositional defiance right now, hopefully we can get him straightened out in a year.  I don't like potatoes...yet he loves french fries and tater tots.  Do I have to eat all my potatoes...about two mouthfuls...yes, each quarter spoonful he asks is that enough, I am full...so we tell him, you don't get desert if you are full...repeat...repeat...repeat for every tiny bit of potatoes on the spoon he eats.  Same with chicken or beef, he wants that desert and resists eating anything.  thirty minutes to eat and complain, three minutes to eat his desert though.

Well certainly a potato aversion must be corrected. There's no excuse for that.

But I imagine it depends where you live and what social class you're in. Like having a cell phone. An iPhone and some regular Apple Cash are practically a necessity for kids now.
#6
(12-14-2025, 05:24 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Well certainly a potato aversion must be corrected. There's no excuse for that.

But I imagine it depends where you live and what social class you're in. Like having a cell phone. An iPhone and some regular Apple Cash are practically a necessity for kids now.

I usually put an apple in with their school snack most days.  I tell them to bring any apple back they don't eat, the deer like apples.  No phones yet, in fact, we have a landline, the oldest one knows how to use it to call 911 if something happens to the wife or I if we are alone with them.  Neither knows how to unlock a cell phone or use the emergency 911 on cell phones.  I don't have a cell phone anymore, I had one for twenty years, but gave that up around 2006.  My business also paid for the wife's cell phone, Since then all she has is a trackphone at thirteen bucks a month.
#7
I suppose one could lean on "inflation" as an excuse... but some know that it is an oppressively withheld right of fair and equitable sustainable support necessary to integrate with today's society...

It appears my generational schism is showing...  I do believe that it seemed to be about learning responsibility, diligence, conscientious commitment and sincerity.... now it's transactional, enter some manner of notional fairness.

I bet it would be upward of $50 a week depending on where they shop and live.
#8
(12-14-2025, 05:35 PM)rickymouse Wrote: I usually put an apple in with their school snack most days.  I tell them to bring any apple back they don't eat, the deer like apples.  No phones yet, in fact, we have a landline, the oldest one knows how to use it to call 911 if something happens to the wife or I if we are alone with them.  Neither knows how to unlock a cell phone or use the emergency 911 on cell phones.  I don't have a cell phone anymore, I had one for twenty years, but gave that up around 2006.  My business also paid for the wife's cell phone, Since then all she has is a trackphone at thirteen bucks a month.

We're about to find out the oldest is 35, aren't we? Lol

I heartily approve. Please take over the world.

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(12-14-2025, 05:39 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: [...]

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Do they still use chinese abacus to count their population?  Lol
As far as the apple tree is concerned, there's probably not much difference between a worm and a human...
Et le ver en dit : - Il y a toujours un pépin dans la pomme...
#10
(12-14-2025, 06:05 PM)IgnorantGod Wrote: Do they still use chinese abacus to count their population?  Lol

That would only guarantee them a correct count.

That's not how demographics are used.