Afterlife

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I'm going to do the Hebrew thing and just be agnostic to the underworld or afterlife's existence.

What does happen, that I can't rationalize away with science and platitudes, are apparitions upon death. Events and sightings at time of death of a loved one.

Or when things of significance start flying off a counter or falling over or off the wall. Or those things continuing to happen like a "spirit." And locations of trauma being prone to these occurrences.

Even the most scientific person (if taking the experience as real) has to argue at minimum for a connected consciousness. A type of effect that can cause visual hullucinations and sudden kinetic energy. I've tried, good luck.

Maybe trauma and traumatic people do things they don't even realize and it takes longer for these things to dissipate?

If it's energy, it's chaotic energy that happens to defy your notions of cause and effect. And if there's no possible material cause, you're left only with the possibility this abstract universe is something that is a governing aspect of our meat world from beyond.

The underworld, netherworld, divine matrix, astral plane, acausal universe, spirit realm, whatever you want to call it seems to be a massive short circuit to the material world we cling to.

And until you can tell me how a small ceramic frog statue can fly off a bookshelf and be the only thing to launch 3 ft away from the bookshelf itself, I'm all ears.

It's either a beyond reality thing or some psyops agent is abusing their knowledge of remote telekinesis again. Really, take your pick of crazy answers.

I do thank you for taking the time to post that. You were right, this isn't really the thread for me.

Hope the thread picks up for you!