3rd Trump assassination attempt in CA

[Maxmars]

Sounds about right.

even if it’s not I think we should go with this version.

You have just quoted every present-day "editor" at every main stream newspaper and media outlet in the country! 

Something like that is exactly what they say every day when they get their marching orders form their Party/frat boy/Banker/Madison Avenue/Hollywood/"Big business" friends...

Noice! 

[pianopraze]

I’m dyslexic.

could never be an editor.

[agit8dchop]

His planes where the real vulnerability is. Sabotage or shoot down isnt out of the question and its the most likely to succeed as well as being the easiest to get away with.

[Blaine91555]

Here's how I think it went down (note: responses taken from real sovereign citizens) :
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I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

I became interested in the "Sovereign Citizens" after watching a video of one being pulled over and eventually arrested. Actually, the Sovereign Citizens lately deny they are "Sovereign Citizens" and use other names for themselves, but in reality, they are the same. It's been an interesting rabbit hole to explore. Like the old Montana Freemen, the heart of it is a desire to live by their own rules.  At the top of that pyramid lies some hardcore criminals who don't actually believe what they teach. They see their converts as idiots who they can manipulate to do their bidding.

I believe most of them are people who feel powerless in a world that makes no room for them or their beliefs. It's their way of fighting back against a society where they have no power or wealth and will never have those things. It makes them an easy target for both the villains working the scam, and authorities.

I don't think they should accept that this person is harmless. This person may have planned for that day to end differently. One thing the Sovereign Citizens seem to have in common is their disdain for the government. They would not see Trump as an ally IMO.

Article from the OP.

arrested with guns and fake I.D.s...
Miller’s car had a fake license plate and was unregistered...
“(The VIP pass was) different enough to cause the deputies alarm,” Bianco said. “We probably stopped another assassination attempt.”
he had multiple phony passports and driver’s licenses...
 

This is not a person who is as dumb as he's making out to be IMO.

holds a master’s degree from UCLA  ran for state assembly in Nevada in 2022

[FlyingClayDisk]

Wrong place, wrong time and wrong day to be a SC!  LOL!  This guy defines stupid!

Besides, why would a SC go to a presidential rally when they don't believe the executive branch of government is legitimate at all?

As for being 'smart', well, showing up at a presidential rally with a bunch of firearms, fake ID's and fake event credentials, along with with fake license plates sure doesn't restore my faith in college making one 'smart' these days!  Pick any one of the above items at a presidential rally and I'd say he wasn't too bright, but choose ALL of them?  Yeah, that's downright F'ing "stoopid" if you ask me.

He got busted minimally for being 'stoopid', and he should be charged, minimally, for being 'stoopid', and while he may allege to support Trump, he's no better than an armed illegal alien.  Consequently, I'm betting Trump doesn't support him. 

Off with his head!

[Byrd]

I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

I became interested in the "Sovereign Citizens" after watching a video of one being pulled over and eventually arrested. Actually, the Sovereign Citizens lately deny they are "Sovereign Citizens" and use other names for themselves, but in reality, they are the same. It's been an interesting rabbit hole to explore. Like the old Montana Freemen, the heart of it is a desire to live by their own rules.  At the top of that pyramid lies some hardcore criminals who don't actually believe what they teach. They see their converts as idiots who they can manipulate to do their bidding.

I believe most of them are people who feel powerless in a world that makes no room for them or their beliefs. It's their way of fighting back against a society where they have no power or wealth and will never have those things. It makes them an easy target for both the villains working the scam, and authorities.

I don't think they should accept that this person is harmless. This person may have planned for that day to end differently. One thing the Sovereign Citizens seem to have in common is their disdain for the government. They would not see Trump as an ally IMO.

This is not a person who is as dumb as he's making out to be IMO.

I do agree with all of your points, and I don't think he's a "harmless nut" though I certainly question his decisions and ideas.  I do, however, believe that he feels he is there to support and protect Trump... Trump expresses things that give them hope that the old order (which was pretty much a myth and was not something that women or minorities really enjoyed) will be restored.

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Wrong place, wrong time and wrong day to be a SC!  LOL!  This guy defines stupid!

Besides, why would a SC go to a presidential rally when they don't believe the executive branch of government is legitimate at all?

As for being 'smart', well, showing up at a presidential rally with a bunch of firearms, fake ID's and fake event credentials, along with with fake license plates sure doesn't restore my faith in college making one 'smart' these days!  Pick any one of the above items at a presidential rally and I'd say he wasn't too bright, but choose ALL of them?  Yeah, that's downright F'ing "stoopid" if you ask me.

He got busted minimally for being 'stoopid', and he should be charged, minimally, for being 'stoopid', and while he may allege to support Trump, he's no better than an armed illegal alien.  Consequently, I'm betting Trump doesn't support him. 

Off with his head!

They would go because they like Trump's statements about putting a lot of bureaucrats' that they themselves don't like in jail.  His statements about sending in armed forces to deal with Problems In Chicago also likely appealed... basically anything that involves Trump sending in forces to deal with People Whose Opinions Varn Doesn't Like is something he's going to support.

They do tend to like leaders who talk aggressively.

The fake credentials bit is part of their culture, which turns them into "heroes" and supports the idea that they are being victimized by an illegal government that took over from the Real Government defined by the framers of the Constitution.  By the way, this doesn't say anything about their education or their intelligence (mind you, I have a low opinion of Varn's education and intelligence, but he's just one person and not the whole movement.)

In any case, they're interesting people.  Not the kind I'd hang out with or even join (and I'm not the kind that they would hang out with)... but interesting.

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His planes where the real vulnerability is. Sabotage or shoot down isnt out of the question and its the most likely to succeed as well as being the easiest to get away with.

Trump's real vulnerability is fame and money.  If you wanted to take him down, send in a pretty girl for him to kiss and hug... someone with a dress that's powdered with anthrax, for instance, or staphylococcus or shigella or the like.  It would also work to hand him a check contaminated with something or another and pose with him to take a photo, making sure he's in contact with the contamination for some time.  

But the cute girl... that'd be the way to do it.  Secret Service isn't going to test her dress for contaminants.   Seat her next to him at a dinner event so that she can flirt just a little bit and perhaps hand him a french fry from her plate.

If I was an evil genius with a lot of money and wanted to get rid of Trump, I'd do it that way.

[UltraBudgie]

From the Times of India:

“These accusations are complete bullsh*t ... I’m an artist, I’m the last person that would cause any violence and harm to anybody,” Miller told the Southern California News Group.

When questioned about the alleged fake IDs and passports found in his possession, Miller insisted that none of them were counterfeit. He told Fox Digital News that he carries documents with both his full Armenian name and abbreviated versions, as using certain documents in some parts of the world could put his life at risk due to historical campaigns targeting Armenians.

Miller also addressed Sheriff Bianco's suggestion that he was part of the "sovereign citizens" movement, dismissing it as a "nonsensical statement." He denied any involvement in right-wing anti-government groups, challenging the sheriff to name specific groups and asserting that such accusations are baseless.

Sources close to the Trump campaign have expressed doubts about the incident being an assassination attempt on the former president. The campaign released a statement thanking law enforcement for securing the rally site and ensuring Trump's safety, while monitoring the situation and gathering more information. The Riverside County Sheriff's Office has also stated that the incident did not impact the safety of Trump or the event attendees.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl...201965.cms

Well sure okay that's just what he said but the bit about the documents not being counterfit was intersting, I was assuming they were those kind of BS non-id id cards that the flagfringe pickuptruck constitutionalists print out, but I guess not.  Dunno about the Armenian thing.

Just did a news search and wow this story just disappeared like a fart in the wind once it became obvious it wasn't really going to fit into anyone's agenda.

[FlyingClayDisk]

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Just did a news search and wow this story just disappeared like a fart in the wind once it became obvious it wasn't really going to fit into anyone's agenda.

Given the media dropped this story like a hot rock seems to indicate maybe this really WAS (another) state sponsored assassination attempt.

If this story could even remotely be twisted into one of Trump's own being a nut-job, OR being a potential republican/conservative supporter and assassin...well, the media would be all over this story like vultures on fresh roadkill!  If there was any possible way to twist this into a negative story against Trump, it'd be headline news.  When the MSM memory holes a story it's usually because there's something in that story which reflects badly on the left.  And, the speed at which the media buries the story is almost always directly proportional to the degree it would be damaging to Harris, Harris supporters and/or the left in general.

I'll say again, for this dude to show up with questionable ID, questionable license plates, other questionable documentation AND firearms to boot, at a Trump rally makes him either nutty as a Snickers bar, or another deep cover actor.  I say he's lyin' and he needs to get his head examined.

"Off with his head!"  LOL!