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05-05-2024, 05:04 AM
This post was last modified 05-05-2024, 05:23 AM by CCoburn. 
The Mandela Effect : fact or fiction?
The Mandela Effect is a phenomenon where various groups of individuals seemingly recall past events, symbols, words, and titles et cetera as documented or transpiring differently than how they are actually recorded in the present day. The title comes from the 'supposed' false memory of many believing that Nelson Mandela died in prison during the 1980s where in fact this is actually contrary to how this information is actually documented in the present day. Nelson Mandela never died in prison, or so 'they' say.
Examples of this phenomenon resonate differently with different individuals, and oddly enough the titled phenomenon is actually an example of one that does not resonate with me as much as some of the others.
And here are a few examples of this phenomenon that actually do resonate with me:
1. Interview With - THE - Vampire. I saw this movie more than once, and I recall the title as being Interview With - A - Vampire.
2. Moonraker. Dolly NEVER had braces in any of the scenes, but I seem to recall a scene with her smiling at Jaws with her 'braces' twinkling in the light.
3. The word dilemma. Many, including myself seem to recall this as being spelled dilemna, and I have no idea why many would have recollection of such an oddly spelled word.
4. Mr. Rogers' theme: it's a wonderful day in THIS neighborhood. I grew up with this and I recall it as it's a wonderful day in THE neighborhood.
These are just a few and the examples are many, and it's kind of reminiscent of other phenomena such as ghosts, UFO sightings, or any other widely documented paranormal phenomena where there may in fact exist truth but often times mixed together with a plethora of lies, mistaken identity, or any other inadvertent or intentional false reports or claims, but it's like they say, it only takes one truth to prove any phenomenon.
It can also be worthy to note that with this Mandela Effect that many of the changes seem to not make nearly as much sense as the recollected original and in some instances maybe even to the point of borderline laughable.
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I was hoping to discuss this here but wasnt game enough to start a thread.
Some of mine:
Sally Ride died in challenger explosion, not as it is currently her dying of cancer much later in life.
The fifth housemate in the young ones. They did not exist.
Columbine happened when i was in highschool not 1999 after I left school. We joked about getting trenchcoats.
Koko the gorilla died twice for me, once in march and the other later in the year. The only reason I knew about her was people posting RIP on facebook, some on my friends list posted on both occasions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_%28gorilla%29
Ledgendayry race car driver Jackie Stuart died and the TopGear show even had a moments silence for him, years later I see an article where is is critical of Ecclstone and I thought 'yeah even the dead hate Eccleston"
Lindburg Baby, I wont touch that one..
Candyman was 3 times, now its 5
A friends birthday, and therfore star sign changed. It was around the same time as Koko's two diffrent deaths as my friends sister died the day after my friends birthday, BOTH times. I moved house between those times.
I have more, but I'll spare you.
I was not here.
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Yeah ... I remember Nelson Mandella dying a few times. The preacher Billy Graham too. It's happened to me on a few things. I think it's a real time mess up thingy.
Don't be a useful idiot. Deny Ignorance.
DEI = Division, Exclusion, and Incompetence
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(05-05-2024, 05:04 AM)CCoburn Wrote: The Mandela Effect : fact or fiction?
The Mandela Effect is a phenomenon where various groups of individuals seemingly recall past events, symbols, words, and titles et cetera as documented or transpiring differently than how they are actually recorded in the present day. The title comes from the 'supposed' false memory of many believing that Nelson Mandela died in prison during the 1980s where in fact this is actually contrary to how this information is actually documented in the present day. Nelson Mandela never died in prison, or so 'they' say.
Examples of this phenomenon resonate differently with different individuals, and oddly enough the titled phenomenon is actually an example of one that does not resonate with me as much as some of the others.
And here are a few examples of this phenomenon that actually do resonate with me:
1. Interview With - THE - Vampire. I saw this movie more than once, and I recall the title as being Interview With - A - Vampire.
2. Moonraker. Dolly NEVER had braces in any of the scenes, but I seem to recall a scene with her smiling at Jaws with her 'braces' twinkling in the light.
3. The word dilemma. Many, including myself seem to recall this as being spelled dilemna, and I have no idea why many would have recollection of such an oddly spelled word.
4. Mr. Rogers' theme: it's a wonderful day in THIS neighborhood. I grew up with this and I recall it as it's a wonderful day in THE neighborhood.
These are just a few and the examples are many, and it's kind of reminiscent of other phenomena such as ghosts, UFO sightings, or any other widely documented paranormal phenomena where there may in fact exist truth but often times mixed together with a plethora of lies, mistaken identity, or any other inadvertent or intentional false reports or claims, but it's like they say, it only takes one truth to prove any phenomenon.
It can also be worthy to note that with this Mandela Effect that many of the changes seem to not make nearly as much sense as the recollected original and in some instances maybe even to the point of borderline laughable.
I'll start by addressing your list...
1. I too feel an organic recollection of "Interview with "a" vampire. The internet however, refutes this EVERYWHERE. Makes me wonder...
2. It was a specific recollection of mine... even to commenting at the time that I felt it 'silly' to have been directed that way... I wonder if all that is fabricated memory?
3. I never saw "dilemma" spelled differently, that I can recall. I would have thought it a typo.
4. It was always firmly ensconced in my mind as "... beautiful day in THE neighborhood. That memory is entrenched... and almost impossible to imagine as "wrong."
I understand the term "Mandela Effect" was coined due to the associated example of many people identifying with thinking one thing was so, and later discovering it was never so, specifically as in so many recalling multiple instances of his reported death.
But the commonality I find most compelling is that these are about "reported" and "discussed reporting." Information that flows between people is the commonality where I think we might find an answer about how this happens.... If you think about it, if it happened with something you personally witness, it could be called hallucinating... or being gaslighted (pardon the paranoid angle.)
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(05-05-2024, 09:07 AM)VulcanWerks Wrote: What are the common traits among those who experience the ME? Why some and not others and what can we learn about the ME based on those who experience it?
It could just be something as simple as certain individuals having clearer memories of specific things to the point where some may have even been moderately obsessed with some particular thing prior to it changing.
On the other hand, recollection to fabrication of false memories is also possible e.g. I could have seen an ME video more than a decade ago by a user reproducing a Moonraker segment featuring Dolly and adding/editing in her "braces"(or some sort of twinkling effect to indicate them) the way they believe they remember it, and then some time later it becomes a memory of unknown origin and is inadvertently mistaken for the original. Although contrary to this and as previously stated it actually makes more sense that she had braces since that was a supposed catalyst in forming a common bond between the two at the outset of their relationship where Jaws also had a 'metal mouth'.
And just because the above seems to make for a better script doesn't necessarily mean that the original script writers thought of it or opted out for whatever reason.
I'm not so sure though that false or fabricated memories can invalidate the entire ME phenomenon, and some are pointing their fingers at CERN and the LHC which does seem like a bit of a stretch.
For me personally with some of these supposed ME's it does have a sort of feel to it that someone or some thing is deliberately messing with us by creating these changes that occasionally seem kind of silly in comparison with the originals.
Other ideas include alternate/parallel universes/timelines and a migrating to or merging of these.
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05-13-2024, 03:59 PM
This post was last modified 05-13-2024, 04:04 PM by Tecate. 
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Argh, it didn’t work again.
Sorry, I’m really bad at this.
It was supposed to be a photo of some Berenstain/Berenstein stuffed bears with the original tags, showing “ The Berenstain Bears” at the top of the tag, and Bernstein Mama Bear lower down.
I happened to run across it online.
Tecate
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